Beware Carterscards2006

[CMIZ5290]

I know one thing, i am going to get hot and heavy into buying gai, bvg, and pro graded t206s at ridiculous prices. I am then going to submit them to psa or sgc to at least try and cross them to a comparable grade. If they say evidence of trimming or alteration, i will promptly return them to the poor seller for a full refund. After collecting t206s for over 15 years, i have found a new, nothing-to-lose system. Thank you to all on this thread who have made me see the light, and the dollar$.

[jezzeaepi]

Nothing to lose except grading fees, shipping, and return shipping and all the associated insurance costs. Ebay wont let you return it if just not a good cross over grade, only if the cardr shows evidence of tampering. So thats going to get pretty expensive for you considering youll only be able to return them if they come back as being altered. Not to mention you will have a quickly dwindeling list of sellers that are willing to deal with you.

[CMIZ5290]

Jezz- wow, thanks for informing me. Your 15 total posts on net54 brings alot to the table.

[carrigansghost]

Guess you should read the rules section, David? You have a private message in your inbox for calling me out in this thread. I have sold many items in good faith, many cars, cards and furniture. Sue the expert that gives you the opinion, not the seller. I have been man enough to sign my name to many apprasials and stand behind them.

Rawn Hill

[jezzeaepi]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Jezz- wow, thanks for informing me. Your 15 total posts on net54 brings alot to the table.

No problem, your unpleasant attitude does the same.

[ullmandds]

wow...this is shaping up to be the cage match to end all cage matches!!!

[T206DK]

I've had dealings with Carterscards on ebay and have bought some nice T206's from them. I think a couple of times I found some suspicious bidding patterns by low feedback bidders, thats all.
I can't say technically or legally who is in the right or wrong here. i think as a reputable seller, Carterscards might want to think about refunding the buyers money. I personally feel he is not obligated to do so. When you buy a graded card from some TPG's you are taking the same chance as buying it raw.
I had a similar experience back in 2007 with GAI graded N172's. I bought a couple off of a reputable ebayer and sent them to PSA to be crossed over. Both came back as having been altered. I informed the seller and told him I was now pretty sure the cards had been re-backed. He refunded my money , and got ahold of other sellers that had bought cards from this "find" and told them they may have re-backed cards and that he would refund their $$ as well. I don't know if that seller is a member here or not, but he is an example of one of the good guys in the hobby.

[barrysloate]

This thread really is turning into a lulu.

I know the knee jerk reaction is that the buyer is always right and the seller should offer a refund no questions asked. But there are a lot of very good sellers out there who may be taken advantage of by rogue buyers who are looking to make a quick buck at the seller's expense.

If I knew I could return any card I wanted within 7 days, couldn't I buy an entire dealer's inventory, spend six days selling as many cards as I am able for a profit, and then return all the unsold ones on the seventh day? My point is that buyers can be bad too. Instead of a blanket statement, let me suggest that each situation should be looked at before a decision is made. Let's be fair to both buyers and sellers.

And of course I am not saying that Todd is wrong here. Frankly, I place 100% of the blame on GAI. Todd bought a card, Carter's sold a card. If GAI did their job right this thread wouldn't have even begun.

[HBroll]

But Barry how do you know GAI was wrong? Maybe SGC got it wrong. If the card was sent to PSA & Beckett and they all deemed it trimmed then I would say SGC was correct but right now who knows who got it right.