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View Poll Results: In your estimation, what percentage have been trimmed?
Less than 10% 20 23.26%
Between 10% & 20% 19 22.09%
Between 20% & 30% 13 15.12%
Between 30% & 40% 11 12.79%
Between 40% & 50% 9 10.47%
Between 50% & 60% 2 2.33%
Between 60% & 70% 1 1.16%
Between 70% & 80% 4 4.65%
Between 80% & 90% 3 3.49%
More then 90% 4 4.65%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-27-2010, 07:03 PM
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Matt- I think you mean 8/9/10...fix your heading.

Of course this is all speculation. Nobody has seen more than a tiny fraction of all the high grade cards, so any response is very unscientific. I chose under 10% but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more than that.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:05 PM
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I saw the title of this thread and thought it meant cards graded on Aug. 19 of this year.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:06 PM
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Exactly what I thought also.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:09 PM
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Matt- I think you mean 8/9/10...fix your heading.
Oops - thanks!
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Default 10%-20%

I said 10%-20% but think that could be low..
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:45 PM
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Default high grade "trimmed" cards

We have collected pre-WW II high grades for more than 30 years. Many of the finer specimens in our collection were acquired long-before the formal grading services were established.

Of the thousands of PSA 8 and PSA 9 cards that we have had, as well a number of PSA 6's and PSA 7's in the much tougher early E card sets, we have found only 12 cards that were trimmed. Oddly five of those cards came from one auction house, in two separate transactions. and three cards were Teletrade acquisitions.

Thanks to assistance of Rob Lifson, we were able to obtain full refunds - either from the dealer or PSA on all but two of the cards.

Accordingly, it is our conclusion that 3% of all early high grade cards might be trimmed or altered...but it should be the buyer's responsibility to review the card carefully. And, of course, consider who is selling you the card.

The cardinal rule of "trust no one" double check everyone makes a great deal of sense when one is spending upwards of four or five figures on a piece of
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:07 PM
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Of the thousands of PSA 8 and PSA 9 cards that we have had, as well a number of PSA 6's and PSA 7's in the much tougher early E card sets, we have found only 12 cards that were trimmed. ...

Accordingly, it is our conclusion that 3% of all early high grade cards might be trimmed or altered.
Bruces - you don't allow for the possibility that someone trimmed a card so well that you can't discern it?
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