T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set survey....MISSION COMPLETE

[tedzan]

Peter Thomas first, then Darren and Barry all guessed it, it was Count Basie.

"April in Paris....Chestnuts in Blossom....Holiday tables under the trees....
April in Paris....this is the feeling....no one can ever reprise"


Thanks guys....this brings back some great memories.
TED Z

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter Thomas first, then Darren and Barry all guessed it, it was Count Basie.

"April in Paris....Chestnuts in Blossom....Holiday tables under the trees....
April in Paris....this is the feeling....no one can ever reprise"


Thanks guys....this brings back some great memories.
TED Z

Good stuff but I prefer his Atomic Band, just after....I may be the only guy left under 50 who likes the Kid From Red Bank.

[barrysloate]

Try to catch Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong doing "April in Paris" together...it was never done better.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Try to catch Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong doing "April in Paris" together...it was never done better.

IF you like Ella, this might interest you: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...3921RD00AE0RKZ

I may pick it up myself after the holidays.

[barrysloate]

Dave- there was an extensive article about those recordings in this past Sunday's New York Times. They sound like classic performances.

[tedzan]

Gee, I hijacked my own thread with the Jazz trivia. Now, let's switch this AB 460 train back onto the main track.

There is no doubt about Baker with a Red HINDU back, so now I'm checking out Baker with an AB 460 back.

Regards,

TED Z

[tedzan]

I'll be back Monday after the Philly Show....and, I hope to have acquired some more AB 460 cards for my sub-set.

Also, I'm hoping that you guys might have some more AB 460 inputs for this thread.


Thanks,

T-Rex TED

[tedzan]

I'm reprising this thread to correct the entry of Home Run Baker. This card indeed exists with a Red HINDU back. Therefore, I was skeptical of
previous data that showed it with an AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. Upon further investigation, I found out that Baker has only been confirmed
with an AB 350 back....and, not an AB 460 back.

Here is the new UPDATED list....we are back to 70 confirmed AB 460 subjects......






350/460 Series..................27 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
Doc White (pitching)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series..................43 cards

Abbaticcio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (pitching)
Bescher (arms above)
Bergen (catching)
Bridwell (cap)
Camnitz (arms at side)
Camnitz (arms up)
Chance (bat)
Chase (Trophy)
Crandall (cap)
Devore
Doyle (portrait)
Duffy
Ford
Gandil
Geyer
Howell (hands at waist)
Hummell
Lake (with ball)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Meyers
Needham
Oldring (bat)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schulte (back view)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
H. Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait w/cap)


If anyone on Net54 has any AB 460 cards that are not listed here, please show or tell us about them.


Thanks much

TED Z

[tedzan]

By applying the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 vs Red HINDU "mutually exclusive rule", we have narrowed down the
number of cards still needed to be confirmed with the AB 460 back to these 10 cards......

Dougherty (arm in air)
Elberfeld (Wash-fielding)
Frill
Herzog
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chi)
Merkle (throwing)
Murphy (bat)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (yellow sky)
Reulbach (no glove)


Please check out your T206's to see if you have any of these with an AB 460 back.

Thanks,

TED Z

[cfc1909]

my AB 460 list

1. Jennings one hand
2. Ford
3. Crandall
4. Latham
5. Lake ST. Louis no ball
6. McGraw glove at hip
7. McGraw cap
8. Leach bending over
9. Meyers portrait
10. Payne
11. Pfeffer
12. Sheckard
13. Gandil

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Ted,

that list of ten is very similar to my list of Cycle 460s getting narrowed down. I do not believe I have have seen of known of more than 2 of each of the Cycle 460 copies of those 10 ABs listed. Any chance that some of these cards got double printed or 2 different series?

[Northviewcats]

Hey Ted,

There was an American Beauty 460 Overall with yellow background that just was sold on eBay. I'm not sure but I think it was one of the cards that you were looking for on your list of unconfirmed 460s. Here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

Best wishes,

Joe

[FrankWakefield]

The only American Beauty 460 that I still have... maybe on of the tougher ones.

[tedzan]

Frank

Very nice Cobb....regarding how tough this is with an AB 460 back, I would rank it as medium-tough. From my experience
in putting together this sub-set, there are 3 levels of scarcity....very tough, medium tough, and not so tough. Perhaps, I
will post a list of the cards that fall into these three categories of scarcity in a subsequent post.


Best regards ole buddy,

TED Z

[FrankWakefield]

Thank you, Ted.

I'd like to see a breakdown of American Beauty backs, series, frames, and difficulty. In an ideal world we could get Scot R. to revise or revisit his great work, or at least add an appendix that incorporates what you've done with cards by back.

That image up there with the cigarette and card sticking out of the pack, what's the middle line printed on the cigarette paper, between American Beauty and U.S.A.?

[tedzan]

The printing on each cigarette in this American Beauty pack is:

" American Beauty
The American Tobacco Co.
U. S. A. "


Best regards,

TED Z

[ethicsprof]

Frank W.

great looking Cobb AB.
i don't see many of those!!!
and congrats Ted on inventing the Zanidakisean counter-snipe system.


best,
barry