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Old 12-02-2009, 11:56 AM
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Default paper stock?

While I'm not totally disagreeing with you, Leon...if paper stock were the smoking gun...then maybe e97 b/w's/proofs shouldn't even be classified as e97's...they should be a totally separate issue...e-unc? I'm sure there are others. There will always be the t213-1/t206 debate...among others...hell...we need issues to bicker about...if everything were known...we'd have nothing to talk about?
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:07 PM
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Default Barry S......

Thanks, I have yet to find it....and now that you informed of it, I can stop searching.

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Old 12-02-2009, 01:26 PM
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While I'm not totally disagreeing with you, Leon...if paper stock were the smoking gun...then maybe e97 b/w's/proofs shouldn't even be classified as e97's...they should be a totally separate issue...e-unc? I'm sure there are others. There will always be the t213-1/t206 debate...among others...hell...we need issues to bicker about...if everything were known...we'd have nothing to talk about?
Hey Pete
For the record no one that has any hobby experience considers the E97's as proofs. It's absurd to think they are, imo. Since they have the same exact poses I consider them a subset of E97, maybe E97-2. I also think they could actually be a whole different set but since there is precedence in other sets (such as E254 "proofs") I leave them as E97. For the record my feelings on E254 are the same as E97. Both of the E sets that are "proofs" have blank backs. The T213-1 set has a different back, though the caligraphy is similar to other of T206, and I just can't make that leap. There is no Coupon T206 and, if I am not mistaking, the factory and district are different than any other also. (I haven't looked that up though) It's a good debate......and your are right. Without these nuances what would we talk about?
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I believe someone on here was selling a Baker with a Red Hindu back maybe 5-6 months ago....might be the same one Barry is referencing.

Anyway, I just wanted to drop in and say thanks to Ted for another interesting thread. There is so much information on this set, and it is nice to read about it little by little.

I don't have anything to contribute to this thread, as I do not own any AB backs yet. 'Tis my goal for the first of the year though.
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:32 PM
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Default T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 vs Red HINDU exclusivity

Good to hear from you Peter.....you got it....The Count from Red Bank, NJ......Count Basie.


Thanks,

TED Z

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Old 12-02-2009, 06:39 PM
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Default Trio of Trivia Kings

Peter Thomas first, then Darren and Barry all guessed it, it was Count Basie.

"April in Paris....Chestnuts in Blossom....Holiday tables under the trees....
April in Paris....this is the feeling....no one can ever reprise"


Thanks guys....this brings back some great memories.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:46 PM
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Peter Thomas first, then Darren and Barry all guessed it, it was Count Basie.

"April in Paris....Chestnuts in Blossom....Holiday tables under the trees....
April in Paris....this is the feeling....no one can ever reprise"


Thanks guys....this brings back some great memories.
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Good stuff but I prefer his Atomic Band, just after....I may be the only guy left under 50 who likes the Kid From Red Bank.
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Try to catch Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong doing "April in Paris" together...it was never done better.
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Default Overall Throwing

Hey Ted,

There was an American Beauty 460 Overall with yellow background that just was sold on eBay. I'm not sure but I think it was one of the cards that you were looking for on your list of unconfirmed 460s. Here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

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