Goodwin Pickups

Peter_Spaeth · #1 09-22-2009, 11:26 AM

You managed to insult sanitation workers and straw men in a single post.

Edit to add Anyone here think 11K for a PSA 9 Red Heart Mantle seems unusual? Just curious.

Rob D. · #2 09-22-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Edit to add Anyone here think 11K for a PSA 9 Red Heart Mantle seems unusual? Just curious.

Reasons I can think of:

1. Marketing

2. Rare cards sell for high prices no matter what the economy. I think most collectors know about the rarity of high-grade Red Hearts.

3. Marketing

4. Really cool description in the auction catalog. (Did you know Mickey Mantle was born in Spavinaw, Okla.?)

5. Marketing

Peter_Spaeth · #3 09-22-2009, 11:39 AM

Rob thanks those had not occurred to me.

Anthony S. · #4 09-22-2009, 11:40 AM

1. Steal underwear

2.

3. Profit

Jim VB · #5 09-22-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You managed to insult sanitation workers and straw men in a single post.

Edit to add Anyone here think 11K for a PSA 9 Red Heart Mantle seems unusual? Just curious.

Actually, my take on NYC is that it would be a far better place with a few more Sanitation Workers and a few less lawyers. But I no longer tilt at windmills.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 09-22-2009, 11:42 AM

And this discussion would be even better with more straw men than already have been raised.

mightyq · #7 09-22-2009, 11:41 AM

peter, i think i have seen that card sell 10 times for around the $3,500 range. where did it sell for $11,000? excuse me if i missed it. i would assume without looking it was a goodwin auction? i am implying this because of the location of your post not saying bill g is doing any wrong doings. so how are you doing

Peter_Spaeth · #8 09-22-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyq

peter, i think i have seen that card sell 10 times for around the $3,500 range. where did it sell for $11,000? excuse me if i missed it. i would assume without looking it was a goodwin auction? i am implying this because of the location of your post not saying bill g is doing any wrong doings. so how are you doing

(Does best Ella Fitzgerald imitation)
It was just, one, of those things....
http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=2231

Rob D. · #9 09-22-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

(Does best Ella Fitzgerald imitation)
It was just, one, of those things....
http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=2231

Peter,

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it appears you have an axe (sic) to grind. Did you not read this:

Great gloss, fantastic borders and ultra vivid blue background makes (sic) this card jump out at you. Fantastic back.

The card jumps out at you. I doubt the other PSA 9s JUMPED at you. (By the way, Mickey Mantle had a 38-inch vertical leap, something that had it been noted in the auction description, likely would have resulted in $1,000 more added to the hammer price.)

Hope this helps.

Jim VB · #10 09-22-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob D.

Peter,

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it appears you have an axe (sic) to grind. Did you not read this:

Great gloss, fantastic borders and ultra vivid blue background makes (sic) this card jump out at you. Fantastic back.

The card jumps out at you. I doubt the other PSA 9s JUMPED at you. (By the way, Mickey Mantle had a 38-inch vertical leap, something that had it been noted in the auction description, likely would have resulted in $1,000 more added to the hammer price.)

Hope this helps.

"Newspaper editor"... See what I mean?

PGACPA · #11 09-24-2009, 07:40 PM

Late weigh in.
I consigned the S81 Speaker (Lot 41) in Bill's auction just ended.
I expected it to fetch somewhere in the $5k - $6k range before the vig.
I will say I was disappointed with the results achieved and, by inference, would suggest there was no shilling or hidden reserve going on. And to satisfy Jeff's healthy auditor's skepticism, I did not, repeat did NOT bid on my own lot.
The market dictated the value.
Based on this and my previous transactions with Bill, I will step up and say he runs an fair auction.
Thanks for reading.
Bob

calvindog · #12 09-24-2009, 07:47 PM

We really need some of those consignors who have those 1967 PSA 8 commons which sell for 5K to speak up.

And are consignors permitted to bid on their own lots in Goodwin's auction?

calvindog · #13 09-22-2009, 11:51 AM

Circumstantial evidence is evidence. I know this for a fact.

Red Heart Mantle PSA 9

6/4/09 eBay $4,000.00
4/5/09 Memory Lane $3,435.70
12/19/08 Mastro $2,400.00
9/1/08 eBay $3,800.00
8/4/08 eBay $3,151.10
6/29/08 eBay $2,700.00
5/30/08 Goodwin $3,124.32
3/6/08 Goodwin $3,697.00
2/14/08 eBay $3,106.00
1/21/08 eBay $2,945.00
1/7/08 eBay $2,500.00
12/18/07 eBay $3,569.00
12/14/07 Mastro $3,049.20
12/9/07 eBay $2,999.99
11/30/07 Goodwin $3,124.00
8/24/07 Goodwin $11,294.00
5/31/07 Goodwin $2,581.00
5/23/07 eBay $3,375.99
3/17/07 eBay $3,200.00
12/18/06 eBay $3,230.00
12/8/06 Mastro $2,722.00
11/7/06 eBay $3,350.00
10/28/06 Heritage $3,107.00
10/4/06 Goodwin $3,525.00
8/19/06 Mastro $3,285.30
8/11/06 Memory Lane $4,074.45
7/24/06 eBay $3,250.00

calvindog · #14 09-22-2009, 11:53 AM

More facts:

1967 Topps Maury Wills PSA 8: the card sold 34 times in the past three years, 25 times between $100 and $200….and once for $349, the only time Goodwin sold it. Coincidentally, the same card was on ebay the very night the Goodwin auction closed – and the ebay card sold for $146.

calvindog · #15 09-22-2009, 12:02 PM

1949 Bowman Duke Snider PSA 7

9/3/09 eBay $812.00
5/8/09 Goodwin $904.75
2/7/09 eBay $798.00
11/17/07 eBay $1,137.00
8/24/07 Goodwin $2,888.00
10/19/06 eBay $1,110.55
9/6/06 eBay $1,091.66

calvindog · #16 09-22-2009, 12:32 PM

And finally, Bob, try to have more respect for defense lawyers. It's a thankless job sometimes and very stressful. After all, I have respect for the company which hosts Goodwin's auctions, i.e. yours, so turnabout should be fair play.

Jim VB · #17 09-22-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyq

peter, i think i have seen that card sell 10 times for around the $3,500 range. where did it sell for $11,000? excuse me if i missed it. i would assume without looking it was a goodwin auction? i am implying this because of the location of your post not saying bill g is doing any wrong doings. so how are you doing

Marty,

$11,294 in the August 2007 Goodwin auction.

VCP list 25 transactions of that card, in that grade, between August 2006 and June 2009. The other 24 are all between $2400 and $4,000.

But the August 2007 one was really written up well. (Almost like a newspaper editor did it, or something!)

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