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Matt 09-18-2009 04:23 AM

Goodwin Pickups
 
How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotImage...ot02a_med.jpeg

calvindog 09-18-2009 06:18 AM

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

Jim VB 09-18-2009 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750330)
Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

Calm down Jeff. Maybe you'll get "another shot" at those exact cards in an upcoming auction!

Matt 09-18-2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750330)
Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. Given the true rarity, the fantastic aesthetic and the fact that it depicts Babe Ruth, I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at. It's possible that had I left a ceiling bid, it would have. :)

Rob D. 09-18-2009 06:27 AM

Not just Goodwin ... Greatwin.

Jim VB 09-18-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 750332)
I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. ... I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at.


And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

Matt 09-18-2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 750334)
And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

I'm not anticipating any future auctions :)

Jim VB 09-18-2009 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 750335)
I'm not anticipating any future auctions :)

Too bad. I hear that's where the real money is made.

Matt 09-18-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750330)
...one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night;

Jeff - I'm actually surprised SGC crossed that one over; it has some pretty noticeable issues on the back.

For purposes of comparison, I've added one of mine on the right:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6070/indycobbb.jpghttp://lh5.ggpht.com/_pAhpQ3jIX9M/Sm...00/image-7.jpg

Leon 09-18-2009 07:29 AM

Goodwin pickups
 
Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

calvindog 09-18-2009 07:40 AM

Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

Matt 09-18-2009 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750351)
Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

Jeff - if that's what that card is worth with PL, imagine what it's worth with a full back!

Peter_Spaeth 09-18-2009 08:21 AM

Maybe they thought it was Jeber's Gold Medal.

Jim VB 09-18-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 750346)
Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

;)

Leon 09-18-2009 08:37 AM

Jim
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 750365)
I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

;)

You might be right. It might be that the 4th time we see the same thing for sale is the charm? I've been known to be wrong before.... :confused:

Peter_Spaeth 09-18-2009 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 750365)
I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

;)

Nah, eventually the cards actually sell, at a lower and sometimes much lower price.

calvindog 09-18-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 750365)
I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

;)

Jim, if there was a National this week you could probably get them at a deep, deep discount.

Woops, I best shut my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

rman444 09-18-2009 10:26 AM

Leon - did you finally get your d303 wagner?

Leon 09-18-2009 10:33 AM

nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444 (Post 750390)
Leon - did you finally get your d303 wagner?

hey Richard
I am waiting for the 4th time it sells...

rman444 09-18-2009 10:40 AM

You guys are too funny.

It is a great card that I was tempted to try to win back, but then I remembered why I parted with it in the first place and pursued a card with a different front and not just a different back.

Having 5 wagner battings staring up at me is not fun anymore.

calvindog 09-18-2009 10:43 AM

Richard, it might be funnier if you receive a call next week from Bill Goodwin telling you that the "winner" of the D303 Wagner didn't pay for the card and you can have it for the underbidder price.

Matt 09-18-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750396)
...the "winner" of the D303 Wagner didn't pay for the card and you can have it for the underbidder price.

I was wondering why even though we have, by far, the largest community of pre-war card collector's anywhere, I am the only one to have claimed to have won anything in last night's auction...

Jim VB 09-18-2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 750398)
I was wondering why... I am the only one to have claimed to have won anything in last night's auction...

Maybe it depends upon your definition of the word "won."

rman444 09-18-2009 10:55 AM

I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.

rman444 09-18-2009 10:57 AM

I won the W600 Wagner, and if the previous owner would have just sold it to me directly it would have saved me from eating more ramen :D

calvindog 09-18-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444 (Post 750402)
I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.


Richard, if I were you I'd run out immediately and buy a lottery ticket.

Cat 09-18-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444 (Post 750402)
I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.

I always get my checks for consignments.

I also won something last night.

My experience has always been positive.

Nice pickup on the W600. You need more Wagner cards!!! :D

botn 09-18-2009 11:32 AM

I won a card last night. I also had a top all on it and it did not get close. I have never been concerned about placing a top all in Bill's auction. I also consigned material. Some of which went well beyond what I expected and others did not do so well. I was contacted this morning by someone who won one of my items which I felt did not do well. The winner told me a top all was placed on the item 2 bids higher than the final bid.

V117collector 09-18-2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by botn (Post 750429)
I won a card last night. I also had a top all on it and it did not get close. I have never been concerned about placing a top all in Bill's auction. bid.


For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!:cool:

Matt 09-18-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V117collector (Post 750430)
For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!:cool:

Brad - I really appreciate you posting that as I was sitting here for the last hour wondering "What does Brad thing about this thread...Does it make him happy? angry? sad? or does it make him thing of Borat?"

Thanks for clearing that up for me; I suspected the answer might be Borat but now I know for sure.

calvindog 09-18-2009 11:43 AM

Hmmm....sounds like you guys are conspiring on this thread.

V117collector 09-18-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750434)
Hmmm....sounds like you guys are conspiring on this thread.

Hmmm... Lets keep on topic!:)

triwak 09-18-2009 11:50 AM

I was gonna make a run at the Agulitas Oscar Charleston, but it was outta my sights before I even started! >8k with a pinhole! Damn.

rman444 09-18-2009 11:51 AM

Actually Bill is lining all of our pockets with all of that extra money he is making with the record setting un-shilled bids in his auctions.

calvindog 09-18-2009 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rman444 (Post 750440)
Actually Bill is lining all of our pockets with all of that extra money he is making with the record setting un-shilled bids in his auctions.

Have you seen his bidding records?

Wesley 09-18-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triwak (Post 750439)
I was gonna make a run at the Agulitas Oscar Charleston, but it was outta my sights before I even started! >8k with a pinhole! Damn.

I was outbid on that one as well. The last time that card sold in Ryan Christoff's auction, it went for over $10,000.

Cat 09-18-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley (Post 750449)
I was outbid on that one as well. The last time that card sold in Ryan Christoff's auction, it went for over $10,000.

You guys need to have more staying power. :D

botn 09-18-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V117collector (Post 750430)
For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!:cool:

Darn those pesky voices inside your head. Such a distraction, aren't they? Well, tell everyone I say hello.

scooter729 09-18-2009 07:18 PM

Just curious, but for the uninitiated, what items has Goodwin sold multiple times in the past? Is this a frequent issue?

sox1903wschamp 09-18-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 750323)
How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:
http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotImage...ot02a_med.jpeg


Hey Matt,

Amid all of the puerility of this thread, this really is a nice pickup. Congrats!

chiprop 09-18-2009 08:53 PM

jeff- take it easy! :p

calvindog 09-18-2009 09:34 PM

Fraud isn't puerile.

bigfish 09-18-2009 10:05 PM

Goodwin
 
It is interesting that certain people target certain auction houses while a certain auction house stays out of the line of fire. If you are going to poke and investigate every card in Bill's auction, why don't you do the same for all the auction houses? Or you could just use your time doing something else more fun? Just a thought. Too much negative press here all the time. I have never had an issue with getting paid in Bill's auction. My topple bids don't get run to the top and stop short. I will only leave a topple bid in Goodwin. Cards get re auctioned all the time from all auction houses. It is the way things are going these days. My 2 cents.

sox1903wschamp 09-18-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 750601)
Fraud isn't puerile.

So true but was hoping to see more pickups. Maybe it's true :rolleyes:

calvindog 09-18-2009 10:12 PM

Which auction houses are kept out of the line of fire?

Let me count them: REA, Sloate (RIP), B & L, Huggins & Scott.

Those in the line of fire: Mastro/Legendary, Mile High, ML, Goodwin.

Are the two groups at all different to you?

oldjudge 09-18-2009 11:29 PM

I have had nothing but positive experiences in Bill's auctions; he is a pleasure to work with. I won two lots last night, the American Caramel Ruth and the Num Num set, both at under my max bids. I also know the winner of four of the Leaf football lots, including the $71,000 Luckman. Those were real wins by a real person.

V117collector 09-19-2009 12:04 AM

There seems to be a problem with goodwin's shipping department... did anyone else NOT get a catalog? :cool:

botn 09-19-2009 12:28 AM

Brad,

Bill is out to get you. Just ask those voices. If you want I can send you my catalog.

Greg

V117collector 09-19-2009 01:50 AM

Is this post real enough for you now?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by botn (Post 750627)
Brad,

Bill is out to get you. Just ask those voices. If you want I can send you my catalog.

Greg


As a previous Consignor you'd think getting a catolog wouldn't be too much trouble, right? Well, I've had previous issues with goodwin regarding costomer service, no email replies and late payment on consigned goods.

Weeks after the auction I posted a thread asking if anyone got paid/no catolog. Only then did goodwin respond... Did everyone else get a catalog this time? hmmm...:cool:

barrysloate 09-19-2009 04:45 AM

Hi Toby- hope you are well. They are "top all" bids, not "topple." But I did get a chuckle out of it.:)


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