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06-25-2009, 12:59 PM
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Hey Doug,
In your estimation, that is an M113 Baseball Magazine, right? 
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06-25-2009, 04:12 PM
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The item definitely has all the hallmarks of a M113 Baseball Mag Premium except the size. 1910 was the first year they produced the M113/M114's so they may not have had them standardized to what they were in later years. Although, there is tremendous variation in the sizes among the Baseball Mag Premiums. This one does appear to be that, but was specially made as a much larger piece.
-Rhett
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06-25-2009, 04:25 PM
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It is a very desirable Burke & Atwell Supplement issued by The Baseball Magazine in 1910. These are scarce and are quite coveted by collectors.
Below is a link from a Hunt Auction in 2005, which is the only time they've featured an original one of these (it has been reproduced, so be careful). Please note the price realized, and the fact that this one was in rough condition with a repaired tear. It is tough to find them any better (if at all) but like any other panoramas, the condition and price are closely linked. http://www.huntauctions.com/LIVE/ima...=961&lot_qual= You could consider re-framing yours, to conceal much of the water staining along the edges. Although many collectors prefer the original frame, no matter the condition.... simply a matter of preferance. Below is a shot of mine. It's one of my favorite panoramas of all-time, and really captures the essence of the fabulous dead-ball era...
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06-25-2009, 05:47 PM
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I've not heard of a Burke & Atwell Supplement...
I still think it is an M113 from Baseball Magazine, notwithstanding what is opined above or by Hunt. I don't have faith in the 1913 SCD date, nor the 1910 date mentioned above. I understand that it has a copyright date of 1910 on it... seems to me that they may well have gone out the following year. Dating these is an odd process. Mr. Haber and others were of the opinion that some Baseball Magazine premiums that were listed in the ads weren't available when initially availabe; and that some weren't ever available even though they were advertised. Generally, SCD has done well with their list and their dating. As for Hunt's price, that seems realistic for one in good shape. Hunt mentions that their offering is marked Burke & Atwell, but they don't refer to it as a "Burke & Atwell Supplement". Hunt mentions dimensions of 12" x 20". I think this is an M113.
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#8
06-25-2009, 05:51 PM
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#9
06-25-2009, 06:03 PM
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No Sir, it is not semantics. Semantics is the study of meaning.
I've never heard of a Burke & Atwell Supplement. I do not think it is a Burke & Atwell Supplement. I think it is an M113 Baseball Magazine supplement. If you see everyone agreeing on that I don't. I see up there where it is too big, and where it's a Burke & Atwell Supplement. If you are agreeing with me that it's an M113 Baseball Magazine supplement, then we're in agreement. I agree with folks that think it is unduly big. M113s are quite big. The team photos are of varying sizes. This one may will be the biggest of the team photos; nay biggest of all.
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#10
06-25-2009, 06:09 PM
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Semantics....
To be precise it is a Baseball Magazine Supplement, taken by renowned photography studio Burke & Atwell. Mastro sold one or two of these for around $1,100 in nice condition, back in their heyday (but I cannot find them anywhere in the Legendary archives). FWIW, the visible portion of mine measures 13.75" X 22.5", but more of it is tucked behind the frame. Hunt's description likely covers only the visible portion, of which a greater portion was matted out.
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#11
06-25-2009, 06:30 PM
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Hybrid Mode
