Unpopular opinion on VCP an other "comp apps"

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

We base all our data on what is verifiable with links and images of the sale....
It is just not possible to do that in FB, Tik Tok, etc...

I have been asked countless times that X sold for Y in a deal. I have no way of verifying anything. So am I just suppose to trust everyone to report it back to me and just post.

What would stop you from saying it cost your $10K and it reality cost you $3K and I post it. Now you have a comp and your willing to selling for 1/2 of VCP average...

Sorry but I would not put much trust in a model like you suggest.

HI Bobby,

Long time VCP subscriber! Does VCP capture ebay BIN prices? Also any new sources of data in the works you can share?

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

HI Bobby,

Long time VCP subscriber! Does VCP capture ebay BIN prices? Also any new sources of data in the works you can share?

Yes we do capture BIN and BO sales and you should see them usually with the asking price X'd out and the price it sold for underneath. This take longer to post because mostly due to eBay API system. 1st it will not start our process until the time set by the seller expires. Normal systems will close once the item is sold. Then after this eBay makes getting the final value difficult so we then have to find that out.

In regards to new data sources we are always looking for new AH or others. We do not scrap and try to get live listings to help our members collect. If anyone would like us to get someone we currently do not have please let us know and we will try to connect.

[BobbyVCP]

Also since we have the BIN original price and the accepted price that let us create BOOST...you can now look up sellers on VCP and see their acceptance rate. This is a great tool for the buyer in knowing the what they typically accept according to price range.

[Republicaninmass]

Vcp has allowed anyone to become a "dealer" overnight. Not to mention the market has just been going up for the most part. I don't think condemning VCP is the answer.

[theshowandme]

Comps provide insight for both the seller and potential buyers.

They are not absolute.

More information is always a good thing.

[OhioLawyerF5]

It sounds like your problem isn't with the tools that are available, but with how people use (or misuse) them. Having data is useful (the opposite of worthless). It's what you do with that data that matters.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

In regards to new data sources we are always looking for new AH or others. We do not scrap and try to get live listings to help our members collect. If anyone would like us to get someone we currently do not have please let us know and we will try to connect.

You've been welcome to our data for years.

[BobbyVCP]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You've been welcome to our data for years.

Can you give me your address I googled Aquarian Sports Cards and get only Net54 posts and other strange things...also can you supply a API feed?

Thanks

[Belfast1933]

Jumping into the comps discussion… I find that people sometimes forget that comps change (higher or lower) over time. “You’re charging over comp…”

Sometimes true - if not true, comp prices would never go up.

As others have said - comps are a good guard rail but they are not absolute (even though they may seem so to some)

(I’ll also add that I find VCP to incredibly valuable both as a seller and collector - keep up the great work)

[Snapolit1]

I mean you could be analyzing NASA data from deep space quasars and there are going to be limitations on the data. That's not a reason to say the data is not useful. Data sets have limitations. You take note of the limitations and use the data with the limitations in mind.

There are plenty of ways of analyzing some of the data on past sales. VCP is the best source that pulls the most info together in one place. And it's very easy to use.

[dbussell12]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I mean you could be analyzing NASA data from deep space quasars and there are going to be limitations on the data. That's not a reason to say the data is not useful. Data sets have limitations. You take note of the limitations and use the data with the limitations in mind.

There are plenty of ways of analyzing some of the data on past sales. VCP is the best source that pulls the most info together in one place. And it's very easy to use.

+1

physicist?

[dbussell12]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Jumping into the comps discussion… I find that people sometimes forget that comps change (higher or lower) over time. “You’re charging over comp…”

Sometimes true - if not true, comp prices would never go up.

As others have said - comps are a good guard rail but they are not absolute (even though they may seem so to some)

(I’ll also add that I find VCP to incredibly valuable both as a seller and collector - keep up the great work)

its like any other market. the more actionable data you have the better decisions you can make, but you also have to be prepared for seismic market shifts based on changes in real time behaviors/circumstances/environmental factors, et al. its actually quite interesting how well this thread intersects with the other one posted by peter about bid inflation. it directly relates to and exemplifies one aspect of how comps can be inflated and/or deflated by even small scale (or large) market actions by 'good' and 'bad' actors alike.

[Vintagedeputy]

Comps are stupid and unrealistic. These are collectibles and there is no dedicated material cost or exact number. What someone bought and sold a card for yesterday is irrelevant to what I may buy and sell my card for.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

Can you give me your address I googled Aquarian Sports Cards and get only Net54 posts and other strange things...also can you supply a API feed?

Thanks

It's The Collector Connection. We talked a few years back. No problem supplying the API

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It's The Collector Connection. We talked a few years back. No problem supplying the API

Bobby hopefully you can add...Would love to see VCP keep adding more AH's until you have all of them.

[dbussell12]

love to see this kind of collaboration here... clean data drives smart decisions; the more visibility and insight we have as a community and hobby the better it ultimately is for all of us

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

In regards to new data sources we are always looking for new AH or others. We do not scrap and try to get live listings to help our members collect. If anyone would like us to get someone we currently do not have please let us know and we will try to connect.

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