Mike Trout versus Mookie Betts -- who would you rather?

[Peter_Spaeth]

How many did Mays win?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How many did Mays win?

According to b-r, one. Two less than Betts.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

So Steve Carlton in 1972, who had over 97% of the team's total pitching WAR (12.1 out of 12.4) was a POS because the rest of the staff only won 5 more games than he did. I would gladly compare him with any other pitcher that year even with his naked ring finger.

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Yes! Vida Blue, Ken Holtzman, Dave Hamilton and the rest of the 1972 A's pitching staff all had a better season than Carlton

Debatable. The three you mention had a combined WAR of less than 6. Carlton was 12.1. How many times has a pitcher won 27 games for a last place team. Your three boys and Catfish had a far better supporting cast. My vote stays in Philadelphia.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Debatable. The three you mention had a combined WAR of less than 6. Carlton was 12.1. How many times has a pitcher won 27 games for a last place team. Your three boys and Catfish had a far better supporting cast. My vote stays in Philadelphia.

Yeah I believe the '72 A's pitching staff had a combined 15.9 WAR. My post was tongue in cheek. To be clear, I agree with you

[Peter_Spaeth]

30 complete games for Carlton.