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Old 04-12-2025, 07:17 AM
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Betts has 3 WS rings, 4 if you count this upcoming season.

And good chance the Dodgers could win 2 or 3 of the next few years.

So will Betts finish with 5 or 6 rings?

If 6, that's the most since the likes of Mantle, Berra and Ford.

Rare air.

Unless Trout gets traded to the Dodgers in the next few years, he finishes with ZERO. That's gotta sting a little.

I'll take Betts when it's all said and done.
Never understood this logic. How many rings does Mookie win on the Angels? How many would Yogi have won with the Browns or the A's?
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Never understood this logic. How many rings does Mookie win on the Angels? How many would Yogi have won with the Browns or the A's?
Cobb + Ted Williams + Bonds agree with your point. Teams win baseball championships.
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Old 04-13-2025, 02:04 AM
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Never understood this logic. How many rings does Mookie win on the Angels? How many would Yogi have won with the Browns or the A's?
Never understood this logic. "What if" as opposed to "what is". He's not on Angels. He's on the Dodgers (& formerly Red Sox), putting up HOF #'s AND winning rings. 3 so far. Trout is putting up HOF numbers and not winning rings because he is a moron and choose the money over a chance at winning. You're not figuring in that Trout is a moron.

Thus I'd rather have Betts career, no brainer really. Plus Trout's been hurt for half his career, you'd take that over achieving full potential.

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Never understood this logic. "What if" as opposed to "what is". He's not on Angels. He's on the Dodgers (& formerly Red Sox), putting up HOF #'s AND winning rings. 3 so far. Trout is putting up HOF numbers and not winning rings because he is a moron and choose the money over a chance at winning. You're not figuring in that Trout is a moron.

Thus I'd rather have Betts career, no brainer really. Plus Trout's been hurt for half his career, you'd take that over achieving full potential.

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It is not like Betts has contributed much in the postseason, .259/.345/.416 or World Series .254/.345/.448. For king of the regular season, Trout has been better than Betts. If you want to win a championship, neither.
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It is not like Betts has contributed much in the postseason, .259/.345/.416 or World Series .254/.345/.448. For king of the regular season, Trout has been better than Betts. If you want to win a championship, neither.
I dunno about that. Betts' hustle to first base during that fateful 5th inning of Game 5 last year was pivotal. How many guys hustle to first base on a ground ball like that? He also drove in the WS-winning run later in the same game. I don't think postseason stats are as telling as performance during key moments.

I look at a guy like Jesse Orosco. Journeyman career, but someone who hasn't bought a drink in New York in nearly 40 years. There are a lot of relievers who are better than him, but not many who can claim they delivered in the way he did.
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Probably Betts, get paid decent, win championships, less season ending injuries and a pretty good bowler
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How ironic that tonight, Trout was involved in a fan interference situation in the right field stands very similar to Betts' play last year. But the difference, apparently, was that the ball was in the stands and once it's out of the field of play, it's anyone's ball and not fan interference. And Trout showed great class, I thought, meeting the guy and his kid after the game and signing the ball.
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I dunno about that. Betts' hustle to first base during that fateful 5th inning of Game 5 last year was pivotal. How many guys hustle to first base on a ground ball like that?
In the World Series, all of them. It's pretty telling when Betts postseason career highlight is hustling to first base and not a walk-off HR or clutch 2 out hit.
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In the World Series, all of them. It's pretty telling when Betts postseason career highlight is hustling to first base and not a walk-off HR or clutch 2 out hit.
Fair challenge, but those are WS-winning, game changing highlights. I love Mike Trout. I think he's a class act (as his response to the fan non-interference play further suggests), but I don't even think he even batted .100 in the few playoff games that he was a part of, and those games were in the first round of the playoffs, if recollection serves. How many meaningful games has Trout actually played in?
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How does it reflect on Trout if his teams had awful pitching? How many meaningful games did Ted Williams play in after 1946?
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