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Old 04-14-2025, 06:55 AM
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I dunno about that. Betts' hustle to first base during that fateful 5th inning of Game 5 last year was pivotal. How many guys hustle to first base on a ground ball like that?
In the World Series, all of them. It's pretty telling when Betts postseason career highlight is hustling to first base and not a walk-off HR or clutch 2 out hit.
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In the World Series, all of them. It's pretty telling when Betts postseason career highlight is hustling to first base and not a walk-off HR or clutch 2 out hit.
Fair challenge, but those are WS-winning, game changing highlights. I love Mike Trout. I think he's a class act (as his response to the fan non-interference play further suggests), but I don't even think he even batted .100 in the few playoff games that he was a part of, and those games were in the first round of the playoffs, if recollection serves. How many meaningful games has Trout actually played in?
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How does it reflect on Trout if his teams had awful pitching? How many meaningful games did Ted Williams play in after 1946?
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How does it reflect on Trout if his teams had awful pitching? How many meaningful games did Ted Williams play in after 1946?
Baseball is ultimately a team game, so of course Trout gets a lot of credit for the value he created. And the individual accolades reflect that.

But it's a lot easier to be Mr Regular Season -- like Ted Williams -- than it is to be Mr October, like a Derek Jeter.
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Baseball is ultimately a team game, so of course Trout gets a lot of credit for the value he created. And the individual accolades reflect that.

But it's a lot easier to be Mr Regular Season -- like Ted Williams -- than it is to be Mr October, like a Derek Jeter.
Surely if you were starting a team you would not take Derek Jeter over Mike Trout.
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Baseball is ultimately a team game, so of course Trout gets a lot of credit for the value he created. And the individual accolades reflect that.

But it's a lot easier to be Mr Regular Season -- like Ted Williams -- than it is to be Mr October, like a Derek Jeter.
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Surely if you were starting a team you would not take Derek Jeter over Mike Trout.
I wouldn't take Jeter over Ted Williams either.
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I wouldn't take Jeter over Ted Williams either.
If I could choose a single player around which to build a post season roster, it would be Derek Jeter. The guy's got a crazy clutch track record.
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Surely if you were starting a team you would not take Derek Jeter over Mike Trout.
I would take Jeter over Trout any day of the week and twice on Sunday. One had an amazing career that played most games for a very long time and the other is Mike Trout.
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What is the premise for that choice though? You're picking an end of career Jeter because he had a long career over a currently active Mike Trout?

If it's Jeter at his peak and Trout at his peak, and those are the parameters, I can't see anyone choosing Jeter.

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I would take Mookie. Heck I would take most better than average players over Trout. He is hurt way too often and makes silly money. A better than average player that plays everyday and doesn't make so much money the rest of the team suffers is better than Trout in my POV.
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it's a lot easier to be Mr Regular Season -- like Ted Williams -- than it is to be Mr October, like a Derek Jeter.
That's why there's SO many guys as great as Ted Williams...
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That's why there's SO many guys as great as Ted Williams...
I agree with you that Ted Williams is one of the best regular season baseball players of all time. Maybe even the best.
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Pujols made one All Star team throughout his entire tenure with the Angels. It is absurd to suggest that he was anywhere near Trout while they were teammates.
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