David Hall talks about The Wagner

[ruth-gehrig]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

AUTH first because it's sheet cut and second because from there it was trimmed. That said, they would know it's the same card and stubbornly stick it in an 8 holder again.

Absolutely agree! No way it would ever be downgraded to what it actually is.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Absolutely agree! No way it would ever be downgraded to what it actually is.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

AUTH first because it's sheet cut and second because from there it was trimmed. That said, they would know it's the same card and stubbornly stick it in an 8 holder again.

After Mastro admitted the card was trimmed, during the National PSA luncheon, David Hall said that he called Ken Kendrick about the PSA guarantee, and that Kendrick refused. He mentioned this again during the video above.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

After Mastro admitted the card was trimmed, during the National PSA luncheon, David Hall said that he called Ken Kendrick about the PSA guarantee, and that Kendrick refused. He mentioned this again during the video above.

I was told that at that lunch he doubled down that it was legit, asking for a show of hands who had seen it outside the holder and his was the only one.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I was told that at that lunch he doubled down that it was legit, asking for a show of hands who had seen it outside the holder and his was the only one.

I was there, at the luncheon. That is also true.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I was told that at that lunch he doubled down that it was legit, asking for a show of hands who had seen it outside the holder and his was the only one.

LOL, too bad Bill wasn't at the lunch.

[Lorewalker]

I agree with others that the people in the grading room knew it was trimmed. I saw the card at the National one year...not in hand so I was not able to determine if the trim job was obvious or not. From that distance and even knowing that it had been cut off a sheet and then trimmed again, it looked the part.

I also take Hall's stance as self-serving and not sure he exudes the sophistication of someone who has a keen eye for grading and authentication but I could be entirely wrong. Just an impression from the numerous interviews he has done over the years.

[tiger8mush]

Making sure I understand the definitions, do these sound correct?

Factory cut - cutting the card from a sheet while at the factory
Sheet cut - cutting the card from a sheet after it leaves the factory
Trimming - further cutting one or more of the card's edges after it has been cut from the sheet

Hypothetically the same (or extremely similar) tool could be used in all 3 applications?