1952 Topps set question?

[swarmee]

I think that would be less interesting to heirs than 10 top Hall of Fame Rookie Cards. And it would take up a bunch more space.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I think that would be less interesting to heirs than 10 top Hall of Fame Rookie Cards. And it would take up a bunch more space.

Hey John!
It’s funny because just after I hit the submit reply button on my message, my brain got to thinking this exact thing! I started thinking, “well, I could continue my other project (I have several different collecting projects im working on currently) of collecting a 1951–1959 topps complete run of cards OR maybe it will be better to focus on some really great cards like a 54 topps Hank Aaron and 1955 topps Roberto Clemente and 1968 Nolan Ryan or 53 topps Robinson, Mays and Paige. More of a quality vs quantity type of vintage collection.

My problem is that in our hobby there are so many awesome cards I want to collect them ALL! But I agree with you my friend and you are 110% right, quality vs quantity might be the better hand to play (and better value wise for my heirs) if I’m reading this right, for example instead of trying to collect a 1952 topps graded set (minus the mantle) or trying to complete a 1951-1959 topps run (minus the mantle) it would be financially better to instead focus on collecting key HOF cards from the 1950’s?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

if I’m reading this right, for example instead of trying to collect a 1952 topps graded set (minus the mantle) or trying to complete a 1951-1959 topps run (minus the mantle) it would be financially better to instead focus on collecting key HOF cards from the 1950’s?

Correct, the vast majority of cards have sold for the same amount for the last decade. The ones that have gone up in value are the HOF rookies, for the most part. A $5 common now is a $10 common in 20 years. A $2,000 HOF RC now might be an $8,000 card in two decades, keeping or exceeding pace with the rate of inflation.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Correct, the vast majority of cards have sold for the same amount for the last decade. The ones that have gone up in value are the HOF rookies, for the most part. A $5 common now is a $10 common in 20 years. A $2,000 HOF RC now might be an $8,000 card in two decades, keeping or exceeding pace with the rate of inflation.

Thank you John for your thoughts on this. I truly appreciate you very much for always helping me. I need to really focus my collecting goals as im all over the place because I REALLY love all the 1950’s cards and want to have/collect them all! But I also want to be smart with my money. My thoughts are shifting toward a box of super cool HOFers (Ex. 1954 Topps Hank Aaron and 1952 Topps Willie Mays) might just be better for my goals vs a box of near complete set of raw (or graded) commons from the 1950’s. Thank you again.

[homerunhitter]

Also,
While looking at HOF Topps cards on eBay to purchase. For long term value, do you recommend/prefer signed or unsigned HOF Topps rookie cards? Would love to hear your thoughts on that. Thank you

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Correct, the vast majority of cards have sold for the same amount for the last decade. The ones that have gone up in value are the HOF rookies, for the most part. A $5 common now is a $10 common in 20 years. A $2,000 HOF RC now might be an $8,000 card in two decades, keeping or exceeding pace with the rate of inflation.

So, in your example, your HOF rookie card is worth 400 times what a common card goes for. You are predicting that in 20 years, the multiple will be 800 times.

Others on Net54 have made similar comments. My question is, why do you think that? What you are saying in essence is that HOF RC cards will double in value relative to commons. What are you expecting will cause that?



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[swarmee]

Historical trends continuing, at least in collector grade cards.

I already pointed out on this board multiple instances of PSA 8 commons from 1952 Topps dropping thousands of dollars in value a decade ago over a spam of a couple of years.

But demand remains on stars, hall of famers, and errors like the Yellow Tiger House because of their names staying in the national consciousness. The Grady Hattons of the world don't move the needle.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Correct, the vast majority of cards have sold for the same amount for the last decade. The ones that have gone up in value are the HOF rookies, for the most part. A $5 common now is a $10 common in 20 years. A $2,000 HOF RC now might be an $8,000 card in two decades, keeping or exceeding pace with the rate of inflation.

Sorry,
This question was for John (I forgot to use the quote in my response)

Also,
While looking at HOF Topps cards on eBay to purchase. For long term value, do you recommend/prefer signed or unsigned HOF Topps rookie cards? Would love to hear your thoughts on that. Thank you

[swarmee]

Ah, I like both for investment/collecting purposes. For the 50s/60s cards, you're pretty much locked into the ones signed already, since many of the HOFs from those decades have now passed or stopped signing.

I actually just sold a 1933 Goudey Bill Dickey signed card this morning. It was in rough shape, but because it was autographed was valuable. I'd prefer to focus more on the fan favorite types than the standard HOFs that don't make you imagine how good they were. Guys like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Carlton Fisk, ones that you still see in the highlight clips.

[homerunhitter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Ah, I like both for investment/collecting purposes. For the 50s/60s cards, you're pretty much locked into the ones signed already, since many of the HOFs from those decades have now passed or stopped signing.

I actually just sold a 1933 Goudey Bill Dickey signed card this morning. It was in rough shape, but because it was autographed was valuable. I'd prefer to focus more on the fan favorite types than the standard HOFs that don't make you imagine how good they were. Guys like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Carlton Fisk, ones that you still see in the highlight clips.

Thanks John for your insight on this. I also love signed HOF rookie cards however they get really, really expensive when you get down to the 50’s and 60’s players. Not sure I will ever afford/own a Hank Aaron signed rookie card or a Willie Mays signed 52 rookie, then I think why even bother if I’ll never truly collect them all (due to cost).

Im glad that I started this thread and that you gave your thoughts on this because prior to this thread I thought 100% that “any” 1952 topps would be a great investment due to it being such an old and iconic set! Now I am seeing that the 1952 topps set might not be so “automatic” when it comes to long term value.

[homerunhitter]

I think another thing that might mess with my OCD is if I started to collect these, is if PSA changes it’s slabs again! For me, I’ll have to have all the slabs matching plus I really don’t like the look of the the older PSA slabs. It would suck, if I collected these and PSA changed their Slabs halfway through!