World Series Predictions?

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bk400

That's two.

Could be a costly second win if Ohtani is seriously hurt.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Could be a costly second win if Ohtani is seriously hurt.

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

[Peter_Spaeth]

Unless further testing reveals something they haven't seen, he's playing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

Your assumption is he would just continue to have no impact, but players who are cold tend to get hot if they're superstars. You would have to evaluate his loss based on the full season.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

"Pretty good in the NLCS" is an understatement, if anything. He got on base 17 times via a .364 average and nine walks, and hit two homers and drove in six runs. Ohtani had a slash-line of .364/.548/.636 for the NLCS and has an overall play-off slash-line of .260/.403/.460. I agree - it's hard to say he's irrelevant.

Unrelated, but it's kind of crazy how Ohtani is 0-2 for stealing this post-season after going 59-63 in the regular season.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

He could be oh for the last ten games and it would still be ridiculous IMO to say his loss wouldn't be costly.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Your assumption is he would just continue to have no impact, but players who are cold tend to get hot if they're superstars. You would have to evaluate his loss based on the full season.

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Would I like him back and healthy this series? Of course, as he may well break out. But even without him, up 2 - 0 the Dodgers would be a prohibitive favorite to close things out. So I don't think it's even remotely a "costly 2nd win" unless it was a career affecting event.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Would I like him back and healthy this series? Of course, as he may well break out. But even without him, up 2 - 0 the Dodgers would be a prohibitive favorite to close things out. So I don't think it's even remotely a "costly 2nd win" unless it was a career affecting event.

But the same guys who have been hot and carrying the team may well go cold. It's never, IMO, not a big deal to lose your best player.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Maybe you and the Canadian should not watch the games together. Did you miss the bottom of the 8th inning in Game 1 when Ohtani hit that shot over Soto's head, off the top of the wall, for a double, then heads up move makes it to 3rd when the ball gets away on the throw in.

He then scores the tying run on Betts fly out. Freeman makes the 3rd out next AB. He doesn't make it to 3rd, good chance he gets stranded on base. Heads up baseball. I've seen other guys celebrating their double and would have missed the ball getting away.

That ties the game going to the 9th otherwise Yankees probably win.

Not exactly what I'd call "no impact in the WS" as you say.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Obviously the Dodgers are in a great position with a 2-0 lead. But this is BASEBALL. It's a long effing way from over. They're now heading into Yankee Stadium for games on the road against a great team, and by the way with an Aaron Judge who is way overdue. To say that they would be a "prohibitive" favorite without Ohtani, such that if he were lost it would not be "even remotely" costly, IMO does not show a keen understanding of the game. Of course it would be a big deal to lose the best player in baseball for potentially the next five games of a seven game series.

[bk400]

I appreciate that Ohtani is getting better orthopedic care than I did when I dislocated my shoulder back in the day, but I'm surprised that he can play 45 hours after that kind of injury. Even though it is his back shoulder, I'd have to imagine it will impact his timing and his ability to stabilize and control the bat.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Maybe you and the Canadian should not watch the games together.

Screw you. All things considered, it'll be a cold day in hell before I get together with either of you two now.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Again, I'm responding to the person who posted that the victory may be a costly one. Even if they lost Ohtani, at the level he's been at so far in the entire playoffs, Bad series, good series and bad start to a series, I don't think it would've been a costly loss.

If you could choose to lose game two and have a 100% Ohtani, or Win game two but lose Ohtani for the remainder of the series (but not a career damaging situation) I'm taking the latter in a heartbeat as of the time it happened.