Help Identifying 1880-1890s Photos

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by RUKen

The Louisville team photo does not have Honus Wagner in it, but it does have Pete Browning, who ought to be in the HOF. He is on the far left in the middle row. The uniform shirts match the style worn in 1885 and 1886, but the caps do not match those seen in any other photos from those years (but the record is incomplete). The manager (in street clothes) looks like Jim Hart, who managed the team in those two seasons only.

I take it back; Jim Hart is not the manager in street clothes in this photo, it is John Kelly, who managed the team in 1887 and part of 1888. The presence of Lave Cross in the back row was the clincher; Lave did not join this team until the beginning of '87. I believe that this image dates from the 1888 pre-season, and they are wearing a different home uniform than was known for this team. I've assigned IDs to most of the personnel:

Top Row (L-R): Unknown (maybe Amos Cross, who played for Louisville in 1887 but did not stick with the team in '88), Jimmy "Chicken" Wolf, Paul Cook, John Kerins, Lave Cross, Hub Collins, Elton Chamberlain.
Middle Row (L-R): Pete Browning, William Veach (who appeared in one game for Louisville in 1887, but like A. Cross did not play for them in '88), Guy Hecker, John Kelly, Toad Ramsey, Bill White, Joe Werrick.
Bottom Row (L-R): Reddy Mack, Scott Stratton, Sam Smith.

Edited to add: I have subsequently determined that this is more likely an 1887 image, and a few of the above IDs are incorrect. Read on...