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Old 08-03-2024, 07:58 AM
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Here's an interesting one, the card to the right of Rowe is an Oriole/Astro, the Orioles and Astros are Rowe, Grote, Owens, Siebern, Nottebart, Orioles Rookie Stars, Stu Miller, and Nellie Fox. The only 4x cards out of those eight are Rowe, Owens, and Fox, it obviously can't be Rowe and Owens is a header card, so that means it has to be Fox. That makes a big run of Geiger-Locke-Ellis-Piche-Rowe-Fox-Cloninger-Angels Rookie Stars (Egan) on a 4x row. This would also eliminate Nellie Fox from being the seventh header card. ETA I have since figured out that cannot be Nellie Fox to the right of Ken Rowe so that eight card run cannot be correct.
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Old 08-03-2024, 11:20 AM
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These are in the oh-so-close category, 4x Frank Kostro has either Ken Harrelson, Cardinals Rookie Stars, or Phil Gagliano to his left, 4x Jim Owens has either the Yankees Team card, Ken Harrelson, or Phil Gagliano to his right, 4x Gene Stephens has either Phil Gagliano or Ken Harrelson to his right, 3x Ray Washburn has either Al Weis or Ron Perranoski to his right.
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Old 08-03-2024, 08:53 PM
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It is Ken Harrelson to the left of Frank Kostro on a 4x row.
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With this miscut Nellie Fox I found I am obviously wrong about Ken Rowe being to the left of Nellie Fox, it appears to be a black border card to the left of Fox. I don't know who that could be to the right of Rowe, the 4x cards of Fox and Owens are not available. The only thing I can come up with is Jerry Grote is a 4x with inexplicable low quantities, hopefully it is eventually figured out. If that's a black border card to the left of Fox then it can still be Cardinals Rookie Stars, Gagliano, or Harrelson.
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I had to go deep in the weeds to find these next two, I have pretty much exhausted every source I can think of and will have to wait for new miscuts to pop up. I am confident Gene Mauch is to the right of Larry Brown on a 3x row, the only other card anywhere close is Bob Kennedy but Mauch matches up nearly perfectly.
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Joe Christopher is to the left of George Smith on a 3x row, The tip of the clown hat from the George Smith cartoon is on the Joe Christopher miscut.
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I found a better scan of a Nellie Fox miscut to the left, he actually has a Twin/Giant to his left on a 4x row which could currently be Frank Kostro, Earl Battey, or Cap Peterson.
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Here's an interesting one, the card to the right of Rowe is an Oriole/Astro, the Orioles and Astros are Rowe, Grote, Owens, Siebern, Nottebart, Orioles Rookie Stars, Stu Miller, and Nellie Fox. The only 4x cards out of those eight are Rowe, Owens, and Fox, it obviously can't be Rowe and Owens is a header card, so that means it has to be Fox. That makes a big run of Geiger-Locke-Ellis-Piche-Rowe-Fox-Cloninger-Angels Rookie Stars (Egan) on a 4x row. This would also eliminate Nellie Fox from being the seventh header card. ETA I have since figured out that cannot be Nellie Fox to the right of Ken Rowe so that eight card run cannot be correct.
I think it has to be either Grote or the O's Rookies, despite his low counts - hear me out.

All the other gray cards are either 1) on the left edge, 2) have a known card that ISN'T Rowe to their left, or 3) have pop counts even lower than Grote.

I just finished putting together a '65 set and both cards, but especially the the Orioles Rookies, command a lot of attention and a price higher than the player depicted would suggest. I think there is reason to believe that either, but again especially the O's Rookies, could be a high demand card to the point of making its pop counts seem lower than that of a typical 4x card.

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I think you’re right, even though Grote doesn’t have large quantities he could very well be a 4x, this is his first solo card and he was a very popular ‘69 Met. I don’t think the Orioles Rookie Stars card with Davey Johnson and Paul Blair is a 4x because it might be the lowest quantity card in the whole series.
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