Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Leon

Same way you eat an elephant. One bite at a time.

But yeah, calling 11k shops isn't feasible. The best thing is to continually show as much of these guys faces as possible. Someone will most assuredly see these pics and know one of the perps, at least.

I’d be really stunned if these jerks aren’t locked up by Friday. Someone knows them and will relish the opportunity to make their lives unpleasant. Could be an ex-wife, could be the neighbor you have been fighting with over a parking spot, could be the guy in high school you never paid back for beers. Exactly a zero chance they get away with this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I’d be really stunned if these jerks aren’t locked up by Friday. Someone knows them and will relish the opportunity to make their lives unpleasant. Could be an ex-wife, could be the neighbor you have been fighting with over a parking spot, could be the guy in high school you never paid back for beers. Exactly a zero chance they get away with this.

What if they're in Mexico by now?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What if they're in Mexico by now?

Is there a big market for high value baseball cards in Mexico?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by raulus

Is there a big market for high value baseball cards in Mexico?

The cards could be with an accomplice, they could be anywhere.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The cards could be with an accomplice, they could be anywhere.

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

[Snapolit1]

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

They do put something like that on autographed items that are issued a full LOA but not slabbed. Don't think on everything, though.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

I never heard that before. I'm not sure I'd appreciate a TPG marking my card in any way for any reason. What kind of research did anyone do to figure out how these marks age over time? The last thing I'd want on my cards is some blotch that appeared 15 years down the road.

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

A little off topic but I always chuckle at PSA. PSA is the supposed top authority on altered cards yet they alter your submissions by applying ink to your card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

What's puzzling is that assuming some planning went into this operation and these were not amateurs on a whim, as the coordination and clear targeting suggest, you would think these guys also had to know they would be on surveillance video.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What if they're in Mexico by now?

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

It depends if they planned for phase 2 as carefully as phase 1.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It depends if they planned for phase 2 as carefully as phase 1.

Have you personally seen any proof of co-conspirators in the footage? I watched a few of the videos and saw one guy grab a case and walk out. If I was shown in the photos. Aside from Huge-o (sic) . I'd come out and say I had nothing to do with it....quickly as possible.

[sb1]

The three guys distracting the three employees are working in conjunction with the bag man. They have been seen on film scouting out the booth all day long, even going as far as changing clothes several times so as to appear to be different individuals. I would suspect while this was all going down they had one or two people stationed as lookouts, maybe at exits and/or even vehicles waiting close by outside. This was not a spurt of the moment grab and go, they planned this out well in advance from all signs.

[sflayank]

I have a question? What was their plan b?
They waited all day..how did they know whoever took the cards out of the display cases would put the cards in the carrying case and leave it on the floor?..if that person simply took the case with him.to the parking lot or just to his workers waiting for them to finish packing etc..what was the plan b?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Have you personally seen any proof of co-conspirators in the footage? I watched a few of the videos and saw one guy grab a case and walk out. If I was shown in the photos. Aside from Huge-o (sic) . I'd come out and say I had nothing to do with it....quickly as possible.

There is one video where it's pretty clear two other guys are involved distracting Ashish's workers.

[SteveWhite]

It is now on the Athletic Website and on the CBS Sports webpage.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

After the memory lane recovery, the armchair cops think it is simple to find stolen goods "by Friday" . I wonder what the odds are of any goods being recovered? Granted, these are pretty High profile, but I'd imagine less than 1% of stuff is ever found.

One member of the gang will come to Jesus pretty quickly and realize they are not going to live happily ever after and will go to the authorities to hopefully save his hide to whatever extent possible.

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

One member of the gang will come to Jesus pretty quickly and realize they are not going to live happily ever after and will go to the authorities to hopefully save his hide to whatever extent possible.

Bingo. There are too many witnesses, security pictures, and conspirators/thieves. It is only a matter of time before the Prisoner's Dilemma plays out.