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Lucas00 07-07-2024 06:25 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen
 
Saw this just now, thought it would be a disservice not to share. Every card shown was stolen.

List of the stolen cards and cert numbers :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...xSdWs/htmlview

A $70,000 reward has been put up for their return or information that leads to their return.

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Perps

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GasHouseGang 07-07-2024 06:29 PM

I'm so sorry this happened. Hopefully the photos will help find some of the missing cards.

theshowandme 07-07-2024 06:29 PM

Many folks here know Ashish aka Ash.

He posted multiple videos of the perpetrators on his instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/C9I__QYs...k3NDlmdXE1OA==

Lucas00 07-07-2024 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2446215)
Many folks here know Ashish aka Ash.

He posted multiple videos of the perpetrators on his instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/C9I__QYs...k3NDlmdXE1OA==

Thanks for that! Looks like a good chance they're identifiable.

Fred 07-07-2024 06:33 PM

In two words - "Oh shit"

At some point the cards are going to pop up, hopefully they get the asshole(s) before they get a chance to break it up.

Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 06:39 PM

How does someone just walk off with 100 plus cards, even assuming whoever owns the table somehow left it unattended?

Lucas00 07-07-2024 06:46 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2446218)
How does someone just walk off with 100 plus cards, even assuming whoever owns the table somehow left it unattended?

They were in the transportation case. Pelican case, Zion case. Whatever they're called. I believe packing up to leave.

Johnny630 07-07-2024 06:46 PM

This looks over 2 million in value…I hope and pray 🙏 the cards are recovered asap. I feel so horrible for the dealer :-( omg this is Awful.

Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2446221)
They were all still in the transportation case. Pelican case, Zion case. Whatever they're called. Waiting to be put in the display cases.

And where was Ashish at the time?

theshowandme 07-07-2024 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2446224)
And where was Ashish at the time?


The pictures and video above in the instagram post shows the distraction technique employed by the perps.

Lucas00 07-07-2024 06:52 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theshowandme (Post 2446225)
The pictures and video above in the instagram post shows the distraction technique employed by the perps.

It looks like the main thief was posing as a venue employee, messing with chairs in the video.

mullinsm 07-07-2024 06:53 PM

Video
 
Watch the security video. A guy literally picked up the case and walked out.

ncinin 07-07-2024 07:08 PM

This is one reason why larger card shows, Philly, Chantilly and the National for instance are cracking down on badges and not wanting people who are not dealers actually setup at shows walking around during setup and breakdown at the conclusion of shows.

iwantitiwinit 07-07-2024 07:11 PM

If these idiots have any sense (guessing they don't) they will turn themselves in and return the case. They will be facing grand larceny charges and based on those surveillance videos are sure to be apprehended. Turn yourselves in and maybe you'll receive some degree of
mercy from the judge.

Ashish hang in there, you're going to come out of this ok.

parkplace33 07-07-2024 07:27 PM

These stories are become more and more common. The bad actors know where the big cards are. Be careful.

4815162342 07-07-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2446236)
These stories are become more and more common. The bad actors know where the big cards are. Be careful.


+1 very sad, but true.


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Lorewalker 07-07-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 2446222)
This looks over 2 million in value…I hope and pray 🙏 the cards are recovered asap. I feel so horrible for the dealer :-( omg this is Awful.

Wow that sucks. Not a shock either. I hope he gets back his inventory. On another note, those prices are incredibly high. WOW.

parkplace33 07-07-2024 07:40 PM

This theft looks to be bigger than the ML heist this year. Very sad for the hobby.

theshowandme 07-07-2024 07:40 PM

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Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2446247)
This theft looks to be bigger than the ML heist this year. Very sad for the hobby.

It sucks, but no way is it bigger than ML in terms of actual value. Aspirational show prices don't count.

CardPadre 07-07-2024 07:58 PM

That security footage is probably good enough to lead to some identification, but wonder what their plan is to move a big haul like that. They must think they have some genius plan to put in motion.

Also, I’ve never seen that guy list a card at an attractive price…but apparently he’s having some good success with it.

gregndodgers 07-07-2024 08:04 PM

Murphy’s law applies with sports cards. If they can be stolen, they will be stolen. I have been a victim twice. Both times, the cards were not locked in a good safe. Since the 80s, the word has been out that cards are not cardboard toys. Thieves are targeting collectors. Theft, counterfeits, fraud, etc. there are dark forces out there, so if you value your collection, guard them with extra special care.

A careless collector and his cards will soon be parted.

sflayank 07-07-2024 08:08 PM

The 52 mantles were put up for sake on Facebook 6hrs ago
What am I missing

Lorewalker 07-07-2024 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gregndodgers (Post 2446257)

A careless collector and his cards will soon be parted.

He is not a collector but a seasoned dealer, it would seem. Just like the Memory Lane heist, give someone an opportunity to do you and you will get done. Both situations were avoidable.

Lorewalker 07-07-2024 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 2446258)
The 52 mantles were put up for sake on Facebook 6hrs ago
What am I missing

Link them, please.

Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2446260)
Link them, please.

Don't out them, I want one.

Sounds like a brilliant strategy to hide the crime.

sflayank 07-07-2024 08:12 PM

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/3pu...ibextid=oFDknk

Lucas00 07-07-2024 08:15 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 2446258)
The 52 mantles were put up for sake on Facebook 6hrs ago

What am I missing



Edited to clear confusion I caused. Ignore.

Lorewalker 07-07-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2446264)
Looks like that post was a few hours before the Heist. It was day 2 of the show and he was posting that they would be available at the show to buy in person.

LOLOLOLOL. Yikes.

sflayank 07-07-2024 08:18 PM

Hmmm..its dated today 4 in the afternoon
And the cards are not in a case
Strange

Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 08:19 PM

I'm not on facebook. So this is a post by Ashish?

sflayank 07-07-2024 08:21 PM

Yes

Lucas00 07-07-2024 08:23 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Here is his stolen post after his '52 mantle post. About 5 hours apart give or take probably an hour as Facebooks clock isn't great.

Simply put I think he took the mantles out after the show ended, listed them and then put them back in the case to go home. In theory they would be safer in the case then in an open display case that is mid tear down propped open. At least that's my thoughts.

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Aquarian Sports Cards 07-07-2024 08:23 PM

Ash's prices are definitely negotiating starting points. Unlike some museum pricing he is looking to deal. Not that that has any bearing on this situation. He is one of the good guys for sure and this is just shitty.

Neal 07-07-2024 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2446270)
Ash's prices are definitely negotiating starting points. Unlike some museum pricing he is looking to deal. Not that that has any bearing on this situation. He is one of the good guys for sure and this is just shitty.

Ash is easy to deal with and certainly one of the good guys

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Touch'EmAll 07-07-2024 08:46 PM

Omg ! Triple sigh !

sflayank 07-07-2024 08:50 PM

Not implying anything...time on Facebook is 4
Sunday show probably closed by 4
Cards aren't on display or in a case in picture
1st picture no price stickers...2nd picture prices
Why post on Sunday afternoon you'll be at show Sunday
I just find it strange...

Lucas00 07-07-2024 08:53 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 2446274)
Not implying anything...time on Facebook is 4
Sunday show probably closed by 4
Cards aren't on display or in a case in picture
1st picture no price stickers...2nd picture prices
Why post on Sunday afternoon you'll be at show Sunday
I just find it strange...

Post was for the national not Sunday. My fault for not scrolling down more and reading it and just taking a screenshot of the two. Silly I know. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7ba4bd6d5e.jpg

Peter_Spaeth 07-07-2024 08:56 PM

So he's advertising the cards that were just stolen for the National? Sorry not following.

notfast 07-07-2024 08:56 PM

Awesome. Another post about a theft which means another post where people add their worthless 2 cents instead of focusing on the pieces of garbage that commit these crimes.

Lucas00 07-07-2024 09:07 PM

Massive theft at Dallas card show, Appears well over a Million$ worth of cards stolen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2446277)
So he's advertising the cards that were just stolen for the National? Sorry not following.



Last ill comment on this for the sake of stopping confusion. Ashsh Always advertises cards before and during shows. Today around the end of the show he sent the Mantle for sale message advertising being at the national as that was the final day at Dallas and the show just ended. And a few hours later he made the stolen post. So it all happened during breakdown NOT SETUP. That is my fault completely thinking it happened during setup and trying to piece together the times. Hope this clears up my mistake.

BigfootIsReal 07-07-2024 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notfast (Post 2446278)
Awesome. Another post about a theft which means another post where people add their worthless 2 cents instead of focusing on the pieces of garbage that commit these crimes.

Exactly!! Commence the armchair QB's and insurance experts!

Fred 07-07-2024 10:22 PM

You have to figure with all the tech and cameras around, they're going to get the butthead(s). Just hope it isn't divided already.

Kind of got to agree with Peter, those prices shown on the slabs is a bit "show optimistic" pricing, but none the less, it's nice stuff.

Really hope they nail these a-holes.

babraham 07-07-2024 11:24 PM

Dang, that's A LOT of nice cards stolen.
Hope the nail the a-holes behind the theft and get back all the cards.

NYYFan63 07-08-2024 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2446270)
Ash's prices are definitely negotiating starting points. Unlike some museum pricing he is looking to deal. Not that that has any bearing on this situation. He is one of the good guys for sure and this is just shitty.


Agreed! I have completed a few deals with Ashsh and those prices are starting points and he has always been willing to negotiate.


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Rich Klein 07-08-2024 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncinin (Post 2446232)
This is one reason why larger card shows, Philly, Chantilly and the National for instance are cracking down on badges and not wanting people who are not dealers actually setup at shows walking around during setup and breakdown at the conclusion of shows.

This is during breakdown not set up. Thus, you don't need a badge at that point to be in the room.

And breaking down the tables is the most dangerous time at a show for the reason I just noted. At least during set-up with badges being hopefully monitored you have a chance of knowing who is in the room. During close out, anyone who paid admission or even comes in for the last hour or so is in the room.

Regards
Rich

theshowandme 07-08-2024 03:47 AM

Remind me to never get robbed.

People might have something to say about my stickers

EddieP 07-08-2024 04:30 AM

The thieves knew what they were doing. If you ever travel abroad or even in a big US city you should be aware that thieves/pickpockets work in groups. There’s the distractor(s), the klepto and the lookout(s). You have to be wary about the most normal looking person.

Neal 07-08-2024 05:05 AM

There are pics of the perps on Facebook as well as a video - which I didn't see

Edit- just saw the video posted here a few hours ago

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Danny Smith 07-08-2024 05:22 AM

Damn this sucks. Ashish is a good dude and great dealer. Hoping it all works out.


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