Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The cards could be with an accomplice, they could be anywhere.

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

[Snapolit1]

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

They do put something like that on autographed items that are issued a full LOA but not slabbed. Don't think on everything, though.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

I never heard that before. I'm not sure I'd appreciate a TPG marking my card in any way for any reason. What kind of research did anyone do to figure out how these marks age over time? The last thing I'd want on my cards is some blotch that appeared 15 years down the road.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by packs

I never heard that before. I'm not sure I'd appreciate a TPG marking my card in any way for any reason. What kind of research did anyone do to figure out how these marks age over time? The last thing I'd want on my cards is some blotch that appeared 15 years down the road.

Maybe just certain photos. See below from their website.

As part of our Autograph Authentication service, you will have the option of having the item encapsulated in one of our tamper-evident holders (holder sizes permitting) or certified with documentation. With that said, please make sure you are completing the appropriate form as there is one form for items you wish to be encapsulated (“Autograph Encapsulation Submission”) and one for items that do not require encapsulation (“Autograph Submission”). Please refer to the top-right corner of the form for the submission type.

When an item is certified with documentation (not encapsulation), we will apply our invisible, synthetic, DNA-laced ink to the item, in conjunction with our tamper-evident label and matching Certificate of Authenticity (COA) or Letter of Authenticity (LOA). This PSA/DNA security matrix will identify your collectible as certified.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Maybe just certain photos. See below from their website.

As part of our Autograph Authentication service, you will have the option of having the item encapsulated in one of our tamper-evident holders (holder sizes permitting) or certified with documentation. With that said, please make sure you are completing the appropriate form as there is one form for items you wish to be encapsulated (“Autograph Encapsulation Submission”) and one for items that do not require encapsulation (“Autograph Submission”). Please refer to the top-right corner of the form for the submission type.

When an item is certified with documentation (not encapsulation), we will apply our invisible, synthetic, DNA-laced ink to the item, in conjunction with our tamper-evident label and matching Certificate of Authenticity (COA) or Letter of Authenticity (LOA). This PSA/DNA security matrix will identify your collectible as certified.

It's done with autographed items in general... not limited to photos.

And no, there are no "invisible markings" done to slabbed cards.

[Yoda]

I support Nic's theory that there is only buyer with a predetermined $ number payable to the thieves for the theft and delivery. To try and unload an inventory and value such as this card by card is a sure way to be discovered and arrested. If this is the correct scenario, the buyer/perp may just sit on them for years and they will be lost to the hobby.
I had a beautiful '33 Goudey Gehrig stolen at a Ft.Washington show and it tore me up for weeks. I can't imagine how Ash must feel and my heart goes out to him.

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Doesn't PSA mark their cards with some super secret invisible technology? If someone broke one of these cards out and resubmitted to PSA for a new number/holder, wouldn't an alarm go off?

A little off topic but I always chuckle at PSA. PSA is the supposed top authority on altered cards yet they alter your submissions by applying ink to your card.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

A little off topic but I always chuckle at PSA. PSA is the supposed top authority on altered cards yet they alter your submissions by applying ink to your card.

The claim is false. It is not true. They do not put secret invisible ink on cards they slab, and nobody will produce any evidence that they do. One need not use falsehoods to hit PSA, they do plenty of factually true bad things.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

A little off topic but I always chuckle at PSA. PSA is the supposed top authority on altered cards yet they alter your submissions by applying ink to your card.

I don't think this is a thing with PSA and cards.

Just other memorabilia.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Entirely possible that they get these guys in custody before the cards are located. Assume LE is watching them. Not good when a clear shot of you committing a felony in on the national news.

What's puzzling is that assuming some planning went into this operation and these were not amateurs on a whim, as the coordination and clear targeting suggest, you would think these guys also had to know they would be on surveillance video.