Massive theft at Dallas card show, Nearly 2 Million Dollars worth of cards stolen

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by ncinin

This is one reason why larger card shows, Philly, Chantilly and the National for instance are cracking down on badges and not wanting people who are not dealers actually setup at shows walking around during setup and breakdown at the conclusion of shows.

This is during breakdown not set up. Thus, you don't need a badge at that point to be in the room.

And breaking down the tables is the most dangerous time at a show for the reason I just noted. At least during set-up with badges being hopefully monitored you have a chance of knowing who is in the room. During close out, anyone who paid admission or even comes in for the last hour or so is in the room.

Regards
Rich

[ncinin]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

This is during breakdown not set up. Thus, you don't need a badge at that point to be in the room.

And breaking down the tables is the most dangerous time at a show for the reason I just noted. At least during set-up with badges being hopefully monitored you have a chance of knowing who is in the room. During close out, anyone who paid admission or even comes in for the last hour or so is in the room.

Regards
Rich

At large shows you do need a badge to be in the room after the show is over.

Announcements are made at Philly and Chantilly for customers to finish deals and leave. Paul (in charge of the room at those shows) has made a point, especially at Philly, that badges are needed at shows end, even on Sunday.

At the March/November Chicago shows I wait for the rush of dealers to leave before I walk across the street to retrieve my van and drive over to load out in order to get a close parking spot to load out. I had people asked to leave that were loitering around the show after it is over.

[Rich Klein]

[QUOTE=ncinin;2446309]At large shows you do need a badge to be in the room after the show is over.

Announcements are made at Philly and Chantilly for customers to finish deals and leave. Paul (in charge of the room at those shows) has made a point, especially at Philly, that badges are needed at shows end, even on Sunday.

At the March/November Chicago shows I wait for the rush of dealers to leave before I walk across the street to retrieve my van and drive over to load out in order to get a close parking spot to load out. I had people asked to leave that were loitering around the show after it is over.[/QU

As large as the NSCC is, you would need more than just Paul to enforce any badges at the end of the show. And as you pointed out, you wait for the hordes to leave before getting your car. I realize the safety issue, but at some point this is just not enforceable because of the mammoth size of the NSCC.

I personally think there will be some effects from the badge reductions and the answer will not be a happy one for many dealers. I would want to have someone with me at the NSCC just to watch my table/booth and not be a lone wolf leaving especially is my material is as good as the person's who suffered that terrible loss.

I also think there will be a reduction in dealer to dealer sales on Tuesday which for many dealers makes their whole show. Alsso, the extra badge at the NSCC would get me more backup as the two most dangerous times at a show for vendors are load-in and break down.

I have said this on webcasts and I have a ton of respect for the promotion skills of Joe, Jimmy and their teams but I think this wholesale reduction of badges is a mistake and there are probably better ways around this

Rich

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Originally Posted by Rich Klein

As large as the NSCC is, you would need more than just Paul to enforce any badges at the end of the show. And as you pointed out, you wait for the hordes to leave before getting your car. I realize the safety issue, but at some point this is just not enforceable because of the mammoth size of the NSCC.

I personally think there will be some effects from the badge reductions and the answer will not be a happy one for many dealers. I would want to have someone with me at the NSCC just to watch my table/booth and not be a lone wolf leaving especially is my material is as good as the person's who suffered that terrible loss.

I also think there will be a reduction in dealer to dealer sales on Tuesday which for many dealers makes their whole show. Alsso, the extra badge at the NSCC would get me more backup as the two most dangerous times at a show for vendors are load-in and break down.

I have said this on webcasts and I have a ton of respect for the promotion skills of Joe, Jimmy and their teams but I think this wholesale reduction of badges is a mistake and there are probably better ways around this

Rich

While I appreciate the sentiment, we still get two badges per booth. it's not like we're being asked to do the show solo and hope our neighbors are willing to keep an eye on things if necessary.