Memory Lane sold cards they didn't have per SCD

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I thought one of the possible explanations for allowing the auction to continue with the stolen lots was to obtain a price for insurance purposes (whether or not proposed by the insurance company). Why do you think the insurance company wouldn't accept the auction results as legitimate values if there is no evidence of improper bidding?

The policy language will drive everything but when there is an insured loss valuation is typically a hot button issue, often involving competing experts. The results of a fake auction or any recent auction could be a data point in one side’s arsenal but, depending on policy language, would probably not carry the day.

[mannequin1]

Originally Posted by Carter08

The policy language will drive everything but when there is an insured loss valuation is typically a hot button issue, often involving competing experts. The results of a fake auction or any recent auction could be a data point in one side’s arsenal but, depending on policy language, would probably not carry the day.

I know fraudulent and fraud are similar words, but if someone had a fake auction, but didn't take any payment(s) for anything, they didn't commit fraud, correct?

[BigfootIsReal]

I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!

Ugh...you again?

[BigfootIsReal]

Lol

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

Lol

So, 2 weeks ago you join a chat forum (where people discuss things - that's the general idea) and your contributions to the discussion are:

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

For the love of God, someone please put this horse out of it's misery!!

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

Please, don't let this thread die, it deserves life!

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

The Energizer Bunny.....it keeps going....and going....and going....

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!

Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal

Lol

What is your purpose?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Mark17

So, 2 weeks ago you join a chat forum (where people discuss things - that's the general idea) and your contributions to the discussion are:




What is your purpose?

The most important of all purposes. He and Clementefan are here to unite us all together again so we have something to agree on and remind us that however much all the actual posters might sometimes get on each others nerves or criticize ideas, we still have something we can unite around

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Mark17

What is your purpose?

I sense a big existential moment coming.

Greg, legal opinions are like...you know. I would not advise a client to do what ML did based on my experience litigating CA's consumer protection laws on both sides (plaintiff and defense) over the last 30+ years, but that's my take. Unless/until someone sues, we won't have a definitive answer. For all we know, ML's counsel may have opined that while there is a substantial risk of liability, there is a negligible risk of significant monetary damages, so the odds of someone suing are low.

John, no government agency has the right to impose a gag order--that can only come from a court with jurisdiction over the speakers. Law enforcement can ask a victim not to make public statements but there is no prior restraint absent a court order.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by mannequin1

I know fraudulent and fraud are similar words, but if someone had a fake auction, but didn't take any payment(s) for anything, they didn't commit fraud, correct?

Consumer fraud is defined by statutes and some would have different definitions. Advertising goods for sale without the intention of selling them is defined as fraud in some jurisdictions.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Consumer fraud is defined by statutes and some would have different definitions. Advertising goods for sale without the intention of selling them is defined as fraud in some jurisdictions.

Then the people putting stuff in the Ebay museum are in big trouble.