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Old 05-20-2024, 05:53 PM
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I doubt they would take fake auction results either. If there is coverage.
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The insurance company, if there is one or more providing coverage.
I thought one of the possible explanations for allowing the auction to continue with the stolen lots was to obtain a price for insurance purposes (whether or not proposed by the insurance company). Why do you think the insurance company wouldn't accept the auction results as legitimate values if there is no evidence of improper bidding?
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Old 05-20-2024, 05:58 PM
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I thought one of the possible explanations for allowing the auction to continue with the stolen lots was to obtain a price for insurance purposes (whether or not proposed by the insurance company). Why do you think the insurance company wouldn't accept the auction results as legitimate values if there is no evidence of improper bidding?
The policy language will drive everything but when there is an insured loss valuation is typically a hot button issue, often involving competing experts. The results of a fake auction or any recent auction could be a data point in one side’s arsenal but, depending on policy language, would probably not carry the day.
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Old 05-20-2024, 06:41 PM
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The policy language will drive everything but when there is an insured loss valuation is typically a hot button issue, often involving competing experts. The results of a fake auction or any recent auction could be a data point in one side’s arsenal but, depending on policy language, would probably not carry the day.
I know fraudulent and fraud are similar words, but if someone had a fake auction, but didn't take any payment(s) for anything, they didn't commit fraud, correct?
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I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:11 PM
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I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!
Ugh...you again?
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:17 PM
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Lol
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Lol
So, 2 weeks ago you join a chat forum (where people discuss things - that's the general idea) and your contributions to the discussion are:

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For the love of God, someone please put this horse out of it's misery!!

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Please, don't let this thread die, it deserves life!

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The Energizer Bunny.....it keeps going....and going....and going....

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I propose to all that want to drag this out until the end of time, schedule a conference, rent a banquet hall, lock it, and don't come out until all is settled.....for Christ's sake!

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Lol
What is your purpose?
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Old 05-20-2024, 07:32 PM
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I know fraudulent and fraud are similar words, but if someone had a fake auction, but didn't take any payment(s) for anything, they didn't commit fraud, correct?
Consumer fraud is defined by statutes and some would have different definitions. Advertising goods for sale without the intention of selling them is defined as fraud in some jurisdictions.
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Old 05-21-2024, 08:01 AM
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Consumer fraud is defined by statutes and some would have different definitions. Advertising goods for sale without the intention of selling them is defined as fraud in some jurisdictions.
Then the people putting stuff in the Ebay museum are in big trouble.
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