NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-19-2024, 04:27 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is offline
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,599
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rjackson44 View Post
I own a stainlees steel Daytona there are copies that are very scary now very scary,box and paperwork look scary
I know it is off topic but I am on a watch forum. They have shown Rolex replicas so good you can exchange any piece on them with a real Rolex part.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-19-2024, 04:49 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,570
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
I know it is off topic but I am on a watch forum. They have shown Rolex replicas so good you can exchange any piece on them with a real Rolex part.
The serial number would still prevent one from being sold as the real thing to a diligent buyer, is that right?
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/

Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 01-19-2024 at 04:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:02 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is offline
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,599
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
The serial number would still prevent one from being sold as the real thing to a diligent buyer, is that right?
I am far from an expert on replica Rolex watches but from the very little I have heard/read about. The top end fakes use random serial numbers on each watch just like real ones. Supposedly the cheap ones use the same serial number on every watch.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:16 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,570
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth View Post
I am far from an expert on replica Rolex watches but from the very little I have heard/read about. The top end fakes use random serial numbers on each watch just like real ones. Supposedly the cheap ones use the same serial number on every watch.
But you can check the numbers with Rolex, no?
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:18 PM
Peter_Spaeth's Avatar
Peter_Spaeth Peter_Spaeth is offline
Peter Spaeth
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 33,570
Default

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=88253
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.

My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at
https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:23 PM
Eric72's Avatar
Eric72 Eric72 is offline
Eric Perry
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 3,778
Default

A few people mentioned the Wagner and stories that it was cut from a sheet. I’ve seen a five card strip. This photo is from the Hager book. Have there been documented instances of larger panels/strips of T206 cards?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 4353F59E-3D99-4B08-8120-3989937FC81E.jpg (199.9 KB, 213 views)
__________________
Eric Perry

Currently collecting:
T206 (135/524)
1956 Topps Baseball (195/342)

"You can observe a lot by just watching."
- Yogi Berra
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:30 PM
G1911 G1911 is online now
Gr.eg McCl.@y
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 7,416
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric72 View Post
A few people mentioned the Wagner and stories that it was cut from a sheet. I’ve seen a five card strip. This photo is from the Hager book. Have there been documented instances of larger panels/strips of T206 cards?
Off the top, there exists for ATC product cards:

T25 - A large part of a sheet, later destroyed and cut into strips

T51 - 12 card proofing sheet, not production size

T62 - 12 card proofing sheet, not productions size, and part of another

T107 - 13 card proofing sheet, not production size.

T206 - the mysterious Wagner strip that is on a different stock

T220 Silver - 96% of a sheet, cut into 8 card panels

E229 - significant part of a sheet, also cut into panels and with multiple owners.


Not for the ATC, but from one of their printers, exists a partial proof sheet with most of the T225 subjects in Fullgraff's book.

EDT: Also separate and notable is the T212 Obak sheet and strips, and the destroyed before being photographed T204 Ramly sheet. But these are from different companies and probably are not relevant as to what was done with T206.

Can't think of anything else from the top of my head that is provably known and extant.

Last edited by G1911; 01-19-2024 at 05:34 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-19-2024, 05:21 PM
bnorth's Avatar
bnorth bnorth is offline
Ben North
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 10,599
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
But you can check the numbers with Rolex, no?
Not sure, I like watches but don't get into the technical stuff. I know some people that complain about the change to random serial numbers by Rolex. Before you could easily date a watch from the serial number and now not so much with the newer ones.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AGS slabbed card theshleps Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 08-22-2019 09:50 AM
Would this card get slabbed? ('55 Clemente) mintacular Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 5 07-11-2016 06:14 PM
PSA SGC Slabbed Fake Card ruth-gehrig Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 8 07-04-2016 10:08 AM
Last Gm ticket stub Ebbets Field PSA slabbed also Gm 3 1955 WS PSA slabbed Mantle HR keithsky Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 1 07-29-2014 07:13 PM
If ever a card desrved to be slabbed Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 5 03-13-2004 12:14 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:31 AM.


ebay GSB