The future of Shohei Ohtani

[TUM301]

Thinking the pitching days are over. Would have pulled the plug on that 2 years ago and made him a full time outfielder. If back at close to 100% my guess is Max. 40 million per for 6-8 years, so 240-320 total. At a 33-40% discount maybe a few more teams are now in play. SF looking more and more likely to me. My 2 cents anyway...

[packs]

All due respect but this Giants hype the last two seasons is nuts. There was zero chance Judge would sign with them and he didn't. There's zero chance Ohtani would ever sign with them either. They stink. He may as well stay where he is and play with Trout if he's going to play with nobody on the Giants.

He is going to sign for the same amount of money he would have pre-injury. I keep saying that I don't think a single team was banking on Ohtani being a member of their rotation for any length of time. I'm not really seeing a diminishing return with this news. Especially when you factor in all the eyes he'll bring wherever he goes.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Thinking the pitching days are over. Would have pulled the plug on that 2 years ago and made him a full time outfielder. If back at close to 100% my guess is Max. 40 million per for 6-8 years, so 240-320 total. At a 33-40% discount maybe a few more teams are now in play. SF looking more and more likely to me. My 2 cents anyway...

Not a chance on earth he signs that low.

It’s still going to be the all time high, No doubt about it. If anyone hesitates to throw 450-500 million out with incentives, another team will step right in. The additional revenue to a major market team will pay for it.

Plus, tommy John is a routine surgery in baseball…to the point it’s a bonus if a pitcher has already had it in hopes the chance of reoccurrence is low. Multiple is a newer phenomenon but getting more regular with several current pitchers in the league with two. Even if he has another he definitely taking the mound again. The success of that is to be determined.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Not a chance on earth he signs that low.

It’s still going to be the all time high, No doubt about it. If anyone hesitates to throw 450-500 million out with incentives, another team will step right in. The additional revenue to a major market team will pay for it.

Plus, tommy John is a routine surgery in baseball…to the point it’s a bonus if a pitcher has already had it in hopes the chance of reoccurrence is low. Multiple is a newer phenomenon but getting more regular with several current pitchers in the league with two. Even if he has another he definitely taking the mound again. The success of that is to be determined.

The results for pitchers after a second Tommy John surgery seem to be mixed so it's hard to predict how well Ohtani will do if he's on the mound again. If he doesn't pitch, it would seem like he could still end up with contract offers around what Aaron Judge got from the Yankees or given the uncertainty, does he have to take a short term deal then become a free agent again once he shows what he can still do?

https://www.mlb.com/news/pitchers-to...-surgery-twice

[Exhibitman]

'Wasted career': Don Mattingly. One playoff loss in 1st round, retired just before the Yankees' big run.

Trout to the Dodgers...just sayin'. Let the man contend for a title up the road and DH to close his career.

If I am a GM I am not going to pay up for Ohtani now because odds are he is going to be mediocre and/or shut down as a pitcher, and he will most likely not play in 2024.

I suspect that the Angels did not trade him because they knew he was hurt and would not have passed a physical, and that they did not shut him down earlier because they knew he wasn't coming back next year regardless. As cold-blooded as the business is, the Angels may have figured to wring every last attendance and merch dollar out of him for the rest of the year, and if it wrecked him for the next team, who cares.

If I was him, I would take the year to fully rehab, then put on a road show once better and enter the free agent market in 2025. It is a risk but if he comes back and shows the same pop as a hitter, he will still get the big bucks.

[packs]

I know Harper had Tommy John but are there other hitters in recent memory to have it? At least in Harper’s case he seems to be producing at a comparable level to before his injury.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by packs

I know Harper had Tommy John but are there other hitters in recent memory to have it? At least in Harper’s case he seems to be producing at a comparable level to before his injury.

And it only took Harper 160 days to come back from his November 23rd surgery. This will, of course be Ohtani's second Tommy John surgery, so recovery time will be longer. But I really hope he doesn't miss the entire 2024 season. I feel like he should be able to come back as DH during the season, hopefully in spring/early summer.

[Shoeless Moe]

Bryce Harper has 12 home runs and 47 RBI and we are almost in September.

He's having an awful season.