The future of Shohei Ohtani

[seanofjapan]

First member of the 40/10 club (home runs/wins).

I wonder if anyone will ever join him.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by seanofjapan

First member of the 40/10 club (home runs/wins).

I wonder if anyone will ever join him.

I think someone may (as a dual player) but not necessarily the 40/10 club. Now that players and teams see it can be done (especially utilizing the DH position that makes it easier to protect the player from the risks of injury of playing in the field). But it may take some time because someone has grow and develop into that player so they may not even be in the minors yet.

keeps making history. And keeps missing out on the playoffs.

You see his frustration and that will be his face for the next two months while he chases more amazing individual stats and closes in on an MVP and then he can figure out what he wants to do and where with the off season.

[mrreality68]

Simply amazing

You have to feel for him.

He hits a grand slam (#43 homer on the year)

His team pulls off a triple play to get out of an inning)first in over 20 years)


And yet they still lose

He and their fans deserve better

But there is hope. Trout comes back next week and they are only 7.5 games back for the 3rd wildcard spot

[Seven]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Simply amazing

You have to feel for him.

He hits a grand slam (#43 homer on the year)

His team pulls off a triple play to get out of an inning)first in over 20 years)


And yet they still lose

He and their fans deserve better

But there is hope. Trout comes back next week and they are only 7.5 games back for the 3rd wildcard spot

When was the last time a sports team wasted the careers of not one, but two generational talents?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Seven

When was the last time a sports team wasted the careers of not one, but two generational talents?

If Trout never wins, he has only himself to blame. Presumably Ohtani won't make the same mistake.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If Trout never wins, he has only himself to blame. Presumably Ohtani won't make the same mistake.

I won't disagree, Peter, Trout is most likely on the back half of his career though. Not saying that he won't have any more good seasons ahead of him, but the Angels allowed his prime to come and go, and didn't even sniff a world series.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Seven

I won't disagree, Peter, Trout is most likely on the back half of his career though. Not saying that he won't have any more good seasons ahead of him, but the Angels allowed his prime to come and go, and didn't even sniff a world series.

He signed his long term deal in 2019. He was what, 28 at the time? It's on him.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Seven

When was the last time a sports team wasted the careers of not one, but two generational talents?

I can't think of another situation like this. Complete ineptitude by the organization. Any Angels fans on here? I'd love to hear what they think of the current debacle.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Seven

When was the last time a sports team wasted the careers of not one, but two generational talents?

Mariners 1995 - Present.

90s = KGJ, ARod, Randy Johnson.... although they made the playoffs, could never get over the hill.

2005 - 2015 = Ichiro, Beltre, Felix Hernandez, Cano.

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[Bill77]

Originally Posted by todeen

Mariners 1995 - Present.

90s = KGJ, ARod, Randy Johnson.... although they made the playoffs, could never get over the hill.

2005 - 2015 = Ichiro, Beltre, Felix Hernandez, Cano.

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The Padres
1992-1993 = Tony Gwynn, Fred McGriff, Gary Sheffield.

1994-2001 = Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Bill77

The Padres
1992-1993 = Tony Gwynn, Fred McGriff, Gary Sheffield.

1994-2001 = Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman.

I do not consider their careers playoff wasted

Tony Gwynn was in 27 playoff games 3 different years
Trevor Hoffman in 12 playoff games in 4 different years
Fred McGriff won a World Series and in 5 different years and 50 playoff games
Gary Sheffield was in 44 playoff games over 6 different years and won a World Series championship

So they may not have done much with a particular team they all played multiple years in the playoffs and 2 of the 4 won a championship

Trout has never sniffed the playoffs