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Old 07-31-2023, 07:31 AM
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Default #77 Kennedy No Bottom Border

How could this have gone undiscovered for so long? #77 Bob Kennedy - partial Bottom Border variation. Have only seen this in red back.

I have only seen a few of these, so I suspect they are rare.
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Old 07-31-2023, 07:35 AM
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In addition, as a follow up to the gray back discussion, I don't think the production of mi-series gray backs is uniform.
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Old 08-03-2023, 09:35 AM
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How could this have gone undiscovered for so long? #77 Bob Kennedy - partial Bottom Border variation. Have only seen this in red back.

I have only seen a few of these, so I suspect they are rare.
That's a great discovery, Zach. I believe when I received my 52 Topps cards from my father, Bob was one of them so I never looked for any of his cards while trying to collect the others, but wish I had of now.
Like we've mentioned, new variations/anomalies pop up all the time with this set it seems, which, of course, at least to me, makes it all that much more fun to collect.
This one, Tommy Glaviano, with the white logo front/black back arrived today. Real happy with it as I believe GM under graded it? Tougher card to find centered, especially in a black back, so I'm glad I was able to win it.
(Red back shown also just to show the different logo colors)
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:01 PM
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I was researching some of the old posts in other forums regarding 1952 Topps variations. I was shocked to run across an article (thanks Patrick - link above) listing 22 "Red Stripe" variations that I had never seen or run across.

Pics posted below - all of this research and pics are credited to SMPEP, who was a regular poster, but has not posted on N54 in a while. Thanks Patrick.

I was also surprised to see a post from one of the employees that worked for a contract printer for Topps. They were reminiscing about their dad's experience printing cards for Topps and how their firm printed the "gray backs". I always suspected gray backs were a result of 2 firms that printed cards for Topps and one used different print stock.

Pics for most of the Red Strip cards are below with 2 cards (#216 Ashburn & #195 Minoso) suspected to exist but never seen.

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Old 11-22-2023, 05:03 PM
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Additional pics
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:05 PM
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And more...
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Old 11-22-2023, 06:22 PM
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Fascinating. I only have a couple of these and had no idea they were related or that there were so many. Great work by Patrick. I remember his posts in some of the past 52 Topps threads. But I given up on pursuing a 52 “master” set. Too old for more 😊
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I was also surprised to see a post from one of the employees that worked for a contract printer for Topps. They were reminiscing about their dad's experience printing cards for Topps and how their firm printed the "gray backs". I always suspected gray backs were a result of 2 firms that printed cards for Topps and one used different print stock.
Can you link to this post? I'm not sure I've seen it before. TY.
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Old 11-26-2023, 02:49 PM
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Can you link to this post? I'm not sure I've seen it before. TY.
Toppcat,

It was a comment in your Topps Archive thread regarding Zabel of Contents, dated August 14, 2010 (link is below) in Bill K's response. I found the posts by Zabel employees particularly informative.

Link to Toppcat's Topps Archive blog is below, a snip of the first few posts is added below as well.

https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/201...-contents.html

Great job researching and writing those Topps Archive posts. I have had a lot of fun reading them, particularly the posts regarding 1952 Topps.

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Old 11-26-2023, 02:51 PM
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Toppcat,

It was a comment in your Topps Archive thread regarding Zabel of Contents, dated August 14, 2010 (link is below) in Bill K's response. I found the posts by Zabel employees particularly informative.

Link to Toppcat's Topps Archive blog is below, a snip of the first few posts is added below as well.

https://www.thetoppsarchives.com/201...-contents.html

Great job researching and writing those Topps Archive posts. I have had a lot of fun reading them, particularly the posts regarding 1952 Topps.
AH, OK I though there was a separate one posted here that I missed. TY. Appreciate the compliment as well!

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I was researching some of the old posts in other forums regarding 1952 Topps variations. I was shocked to run across an article (thanks Patrick - link above) listing 22 "Red Stripe" variations that I had never seen or run across.

Pics posted below - all of this research and pics are credited to SMPEP, who was a regular poster, but has not posted on N54 in a while. Thanks Patrick.

I was also surprised to see a post from one of the employees that worked for a contract printer for Topps. They were reminiscing about their dad's experience printing cards for Topps and how their firm printed the "gray backs". I always suspected gray backs were a result of 2 firms that printed cards for Topps and one used different print stock.

Pics for most of the Red Strip cards are below with 2 cards (#216 Ashburn & #195 Minoso) suspected to exist but never seen.
I don't ever recall seeing or hearing about these cards before?
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