Card doctoring video

[cannonballsun]

That Tik Tok video makes card doctoring look very easy.
It should make anyone who is buying high grade cards think twice (or more).

[jayshum]

He did make it look easy, but he also was starting with a card that was a little over standard size so after trimming some off, it just involved trying to get rid of the evidence that it was recently trimmed. For cards that are already at standard size, I would imagine there's a lot more work to trim them then to get them back to the correct size while not making it obvious.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

He did make it look easy, but he also was starting with a card that was a little over standard size so after trimming some off, it just involved trying to get rid of the evidence that it was recently trimmed. For cards that are already at standard size, I would imagine there's a lot more work to trim them then to get them back to the correct size while not making it obvious.

Some card doctors will press out cards before trimming them. Also, though, countless cards are a bit short of standard size but nevertheless get slabbed. I think you can microtrim with relative impunity.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by cannonballsun

That Tik Tok video makes card doctoring look very easy.
It should make anyone who is buying high grade cards think twice (or more).

Certainly a very valid concern for many, but I'm more worried about how many idiots with a razor blade and some wax paper this is going to inspire.

[Johnny630]

It’s things like this clip pretty much bashing calling PSA out that assure we aren't going to be getting anything higher then a 7 on Pre 1960’s cards. This video plays a part in us getting hammered on Grades.

[Republicaninmass]

Guess psa and himself aren't pals anymore. Seems like a guy who wouldn't last a minute in the old neighborhood without an elder giving him "one off the head"

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

It’s things like this clip pretty much basing calling PSA out that assure we aren't going to be getting anything higher then a 7 on Pre 1960’s cards. This video plays a part in us getting hammered on Grades.

Ya, there's no such thing as a gem mint vintage card. If you think you found one, you've probably been duped.

[Johnny630]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x30DMK-jnzU

[Peter_Spaeth]

LOL the hobby is a mess right now. Time to play Zevon's lawyers, guns and money.

[trambo]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

LOL the hobby is a mess right now. Time to play Zevon's lawyers, guns and money.

I think the hobby has been littered with people altering cards more than just right now. Do you think it's more of a mess these days or just more in our face w/the information we get today versus, say, 30 years ago?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x30DMK-jnzU

The best plot twist in this entire saga so far, for me, is learning that the SCR clown who shits on PWCC daily, calling anyone and everyone who deals with them unethical, actually had cards in the PWCC Vault himself. LO f***ing L

This guy should run for office somewhere.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The best plot twist in this entire saga so far, for me, is learning that the SCR clown who shits on PWCC daily, calling anyone and everyone who deals with them unethical, actually had cards in the PWCC Vault himself. LO f***ing L

This guy should run for office somewhere.

Exactly.

I feel he is using their platform to buy and sell flipping cheapo cards through their vault for low fees/costs to prove a point that he and others can easily score making money on the ease and cheap on them avoiding shipping fees etc. He does the same poking fun at PWCC’s Vault Services as he does with Goldins Vault….it’s all about attention. It's comical all the way around.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The best plot twist in this entire saga so far, for me, is learning that the SCR clown who shits on PWCC daily, calling anyone and everyone who deals with them unethical, actually had cards in the PWCC Vault himself. LO f***ing L

This guy should run for office somewhere.

Definitely caught me off guard when he said that. Just a wee bit hypocritical.

[maniac_73]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Ya, there's no such thing as a gem mint vintage card. If you think you found one, you've probably been duped.

Black Swamp Find?

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by maniac_73

Black Swamp Find?

I’ve got my doubts about the Black Swamp find.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

I’ve got my doubts about the Black Swamp find.

Wasn't the provenance pretty good? I forget the details now. I do recall some people being pissed when the family/Heritage held back huge numbers of them and later flooded the market, if I am remembering that part of it correctly.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

I’ve got my doubts about the Black Swamp find.

A separate thread entirely, I just don't get the appeal of an uncirculated 110 year old card in gem mint condition. Much like the Tango Eggs find, they should trade at a discount to to the "real" thing.