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I order from the Reds a couple times every year. And their handling of my package makes me think that they send packages to ship every 3 days. So taking that into consideration, that can effect your shipping time significantly, especially if you order on a Friday or Saturday. It might not even get to a carrier until 5 days later. Sent from my SM-G9900 using Tapatalk
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Not wanting to disparage what any of have said about GM's supposed slow shipping sometimes, but did/have any of you ever bothered to read and pay attention to the topic of combined shipping in the FAQ section of all GM's listings on Ebay? It pretty clearly states that they offer combined flat S&H rates to the U.S. and Canada for all cards won WITHIN A SEVEN (7) DAY PERIOD. And since they seem to list tons of cards on Ebay pretty much every day, to be able to offer such a service to ALL their customers, and because they likely have many people winning multiple cards from them over multiple days quite a bit, they pretty much have to automatically wait a week or so after you've initially won something from them to see if you end up winning any more of their cards. That way they can combine and ship your winnings so as to SAVE YOU MONEY on combined S&H charges.
But not a one of you people posting seems to have recognized (or comprehended) this actually very good thing they do to help and potentially benefit their customers. Good lord, you have a seller that pretty much does a great job in everyone's opinion, yet they still get criticized for doing something for their overall customer's benefit. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't it seems. Wow, just wow! |
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I started this thread with a silly complaint/observation, not meaning to disparage GMC in any way.
I'm starting to regret doing so. |
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It's a feature, not a bug.
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Its funny...all I am ready is positive notes on GM? Actually illustrating your point? Yes, shipping takes a little while, but totally worth it due to their quality and customer service...I haven't really seen anything disparaging unless I missed something. I love GM and routinely check their auctions...
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It's clear to see in his haste to opine his opinion on most anything, he clearly doesn't read other people's replies first.
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I am used to it taking several days from when I get a notification that my cards have shipped until they actually show as received by the USPS, but the explanation about the scan form and the large volume of packages they send out at once makes the delay understandable. It has to take a while to process everything that they deliver to the USPS. |
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But if they sent the initial purchase out right away, now they either have to eat the additional S&H costs themselves, or risk upsetting a customer. Ship too fast, someone ends up unhappy paying additional S&H costs and charges. So, slow the shipping down to appease those customers, and now you get others complaining about them being too slow. Like I said before, damned if they do, and damned if they don't. |
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Once you checkout and pay, your order is processed for shipment and we cannot combine any additional items you may win later. If you win our auctions over multiple nights within a 7-day period, wait until you are completely done shopping to pay and qualify for $4.95/$15 combined S&H. |
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i paid for cards won over several days. Later that night, decided to bid on and won 2 more cards. I should have waited to pay but didn't think I'd win them. I emailed them asking if they could combine and add those 2 cards to the same package since it had not reached the post office yet. Their response was they could not add them to the package as it was already done and sealed, but would send them separately and happily adjust the postage. The 2nd order did not have any shipping charges. I even replied telling them I didn't expect them to do that and they said not to worry about it. So they don't hold them for more purchases once paid. |
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I too share your frustrations on time. I have been under the understanding that once packages are dropped off, they still have to be scanned individually as they are processed to leave that facility. From what I've gathered, the Post Office is overwhelmed. My belief is that a GM representative drops off packages daily and the PO gets to them as quickly as they can, which isn't quick, unfortunately. I'm sure the sheer volume is nuts. But there are other sellers who do heavy volume that don't have this problem.
One of the things that led me to believe this is what's going on, aside from my wife formerly working for USPS... I had a package sit for 8 days waiting on the Acceptance Pending scan. I got typical BS about the Post Office being slow from GM so I opened a case with USPS. I got a call from USPS, explained further the package had never made it out of LA, and magically within an hour, the package was scanned and on it's way to the LA processing center. That couldn't happen if GM still had the cards. I'll also add, I am a big fan. I do think their "grading" has slipped some recently. But overall, it's still a positive. One thing I don't like to do, but have on a couple of occasions is return a card. Again, one of the benefits of using them is they have a no questions asked return policy and will even send you a return label. I have bought a ton of cards from them within the last year, and will keep doing so. But the shipping and sometimes off grading has slowed me down some. Ok, just a little. ha ha |
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I have never bought from GMC. I do watch plenty of their listings but their cards go for a premium and that's not how I buy cards.
I did make a purchase from gmcards2 earlier this year and it shipped the next day. I'm not sure if cards are handled differently between GMC and GMC2. |
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In my previous example I showed the tracking info from a package they sent me. This order/payment warranted two boxes on the shipment. The first label creates on Wed Feb 15, the second label (see tracking info below) is created on Sat Feb 18. Both are received by the USPS at the same time. This scenario has occurred dozens of times over the past few years. At least with my shipments, the USPS is NOT the cause of the added 3-4 days in delivery times. Again, so BobC does not accuse me of being upset with this delay, I AM NOT UPSET BY THIS DELAY! 3.3.png |
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I understand that for an individual order/situation it is not necessarily a huge thing or cost to them, but have you been listening to everyone talking about how big and huge their sales volume is? Those instances you refer to, where they may end up eating the S&H costs, are much more likely to be at least a feeewwww more than you or anyone else may realize. I don't know that for a fact, nor can I in any way prove that beyond a doubt. I am just using decades of business experience, and my observations and knowing how many humans like to think and operate. My guess is that the bottom line cost(s) to GM for such S&H cost adjustments is a lot more, in both time and actual money, than you may suspect. As a possible comparison (and note, I am saying possible, not absolutely factual) look at Ebay and their Ebay Authentication Program for cards. How many people have already asked and wondered when they're going to start charging for it. But for many, the initial reasoning and supposition as to why Ebay put this into place to begin with is that Ebay may have gotten tired of eating the costs involved when there ended up being issues, and they couldn't effectively lay total blame on the buyer or seller, and/or tried to not alienate and piss off said buyer or seller. So to Ebay, this Authentication Program may actually be quite cheaper for them, even though there are still many people complaining and moaning about the Authentication Program. Does anyone really think that GM cards so strictly and perpetually follows every single one of their written rules and such, that they would maybe never tell their employees something like hold off on shipping things a few days after they're paid so we don't end up getting so many more requests from customers after the fact wanting combined shipping discounts and refunds? You do live in the same world as I, don't you? Assuming so, you know the world is filled with people who'll try to get a discount or break from a seller like GM cards every day of the week, and twice on Sundays, simply because they can? If I were GM, I can very easily see telling my employees to slow down on the shipping a few days so as to not end up eating more S&H costs to satisfy those that either didn't understand or even/ever bother looking at my rules on combined shipping, or that knew about the rules but didn't care and still wanted the discount anyway. And then when someone did call in now with a complaint and/or question about why the slow shipping, I'd tell the employees to just tell them to blame it on the post office. Lord knows everyone is well aware of all the recent issues that the postal service has been having, and would most likely just accept that explanation and quit bothering GM about it going forward. Also, even if they didn't like slightly slower shipping, as many posting in this thread have so clearly stated, GM mostly does a great and accurate job of selling, and offers so many items that people want. And even if it takes a couple extra days in the mail to get their cards, they aren't likely going to ever stop buying from GM anytime soon. So, as I stated before, GM Cards appears to be damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't. So as any good and smart businessman/woman would do, GM may choose to let the people/group that would end up being the least costly or damaging to the company's bottom line, which in this case I think would be the people complaining about the shipping times, continue to be damned!!!!! And like I said earlier, I have no clue if that is truly the case behind GM's supposed slow shipping issues, but it is logical and makes some sense as a possible reason as to why things may not always get delivered as fast as some may want. And in your specific case Chris, maybe the shipping crew was a little ahead of the game, and so as to not just be sitting around doing nothing, got some orders (including one of yours) out a little earlier than usual. You obviously were aware of and knew the written rule for GM Cards and their combined shipping discounts, yet you chose to purposely ignore their very clear written rules and ask for something you knew you didn't deserve anyway, RIGHT? So why shouldn't GM cards deserve the same ability to veer a little bit from their own written rules at times, without getting grief from others? And I'm not in any way saying you are giving GM Cards grief, but others are. I'm just trying to explain how they may not always be following their own written rules to a T, all the time, and I would also say in their case, justifiably so. And one last point/comment directed at those that seem to have issues or concerns with GM Cards shipping times. Okay, it takes an extra week or so from when you thought you'd get your card(s) from them.......SO WHAT! Did you get the cards you wanted? Did you only pay a price you were happy with and/or willing to pay? Were the cards in the relative shape/condition you wanted and/or expected? Those are really the only true pertinent and relative questions one should be asking. Now if it was taking weeks or even months before getting those same cards, alright, then I could see some concerns and issues making sense because now you are worried about something having happened to your cards in transit. But what exactly different would you have done or would have happened or occurred in your life had you gotten your cards say 5-6-7 days earlier, or even later? And if the answer is well, nothing, then guess what all the complaints and moaning are about........................the same, NOTHING! |
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And since others didn't apparently "get it" from your post, maybe it was a good thing I did post as if you hadn't posted what you did after all. Because now they definitely get the point about the 7 day combined shipping period, and how it can most definitely affect how quickly GM gets items to their customers. |
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But here is where you are off, if I read your comment correctly. None of the mailing issues begin until the order is paid and complete. As soon as you've paid, they begin the shipping process. So they aren't holding orders to see if you buy more. That works itself out as once you win cards, you leave them in your cart without paying, overnight they update an invoice combining previous days, and so on. Once you are done, you pay the updated invoice and shipping begins, which is where this discussion topic begins. What you are referencing happens before that point. |
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I live in Western New York and have nearly always received my order within 7 days of paying. If I have a criticism of GMC it is their auctions seem to be slightly disorganized (ex mixing 1972 Football and Baseball singles together) could be a little annoying working from a checklist. I attribute this to many collectors liquidating their collections. At any given time they have approx 27000 auctions going. Pre pandemic it was close to 20000. |
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I have purchased plenty of cards from Greg Morris. He does seem to list the grades conservatively. I agree that the shipping time, I'm in Tennessee, is really really slow. It does seem odd that it usually takes 4-6 days for a purchase to start moving through the USPS system. That said, I factor that into the cards I but from GM.
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I like the combined shipping. Grading is usually reasonable unless it's an altered card they don't want to acknowledge. I've bought 10 times or so when a card has slipped through the cracks or the handful of times they've had something I really needed.
On the downside, they won't put any description of a card even if they really should (like that T205 Hoblitzell), take forever after payment to actually ship, and their cards regularly sell for far far more than I can get the same card for from a random guy on eBay. I usually just buy from nonprofessional sellers when the card is an easily found card, because I will pay ~40-80% of the price that it would cost to get it from sellers like Morris. I just don't see any benefit to myself in paying more. |
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I recently have bought lots from 4 or 5 different sellers (new to me) and the results have been quite mixed. A High Grade NMMT - MINT 1975 lot was terrible. It was EX-EXMT at best with all kinds of damaged corners, among other things. Another group of 1975s, described as NMMT, Clean and Sharp as well as being assured they were centered and high quality cards. They were anything but. I kept 3 out of 41 cards and returned the rest. Very disappointed. A couple of groups of 1980s and a larger lot of 1980 Topps checked out pretty well. Lastly, a big bulk lot of 1970s was so far from the description it was ridiculous. Despite Greg Morris imperfections, the good outweighs the bad and that's why so many buy from him and he gets the prices he does. |
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