Who is the greatest right handed hitter of all time?

[Jewish-collector]

Who was a better hitter between Mays vs Aaron ?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Who was a better hitter between Mays vs Aaron ?

For me it is Aaron as he leads in all the counting stats.

Hits
Aaron 3771
Mays 3293

HR
Aaron 755
Mays 660

Batting Average
Aaron .305
Mays.301

Runs
Aaron 2174
Mays 2068

RBI
Aaron 2297
Mays 1909

Total Bases
Aaron 6856
Mays 6080

[ClementeFanOh]

Packs beat me to Rickey H by about 40 minutes. I do NOT think he belongs
with the current consensus Top 5, but he's a sneaky great call.

Trent King

[Rad_Hazard]

It's Foxx for sure. If we are doing counting stats it's Aaron, but Foxx beats him per PA.

[Scocs]

Originally Posted by bnorth

For me it is Aaron as he leads in all the counting stats.

Hits
Aaron 3771
Mays 3293

HR
Aaron 755
Mays 660

Batting Average
Aaron .305
Mays.301

Runs
Aaron 2174
Mays 2068

RBI
Aaron 2297
Mays 1909

Total Bases
Aaron 6856
Mays 6080

It is true that Aaron had better overall numbers towards the end of his career vs. Mays, but Mays also lost nearly two years to military service. It’s frightening to think of Mays’ hypothetical career totals….

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Scocs

It is true that Aaron had better overall numbers towards the end of his career vs. Mays, but Mays also lost nearly two years to military service. It’s frightening to think of Mays’ hypothetical career totals….

Aaron played his career in hitters parks. From 1966-1974, the easiest hitters park in MLB. Mays played most of his career (1958 on) in pitchers parks.

[sniffy5]

It’s Joe Dimaggio. Throw whatever stats you want at the situation. He was the best. If any of us started a team, he’d be the first picked.

[RL]

al kaline...probably not in the to 5 though

[packs]

I really do think there is a case for DiMaggio over Mays and Aaron. Sure, short career and not even 500 homers, but there are very few players better than him. His overall slugging, OPS and OPS+ figures are very close to Mays and Aaron. I do realize Mays and Aaron's longevity are pretty much unsurpassed except for each other. But what a player DiMaggio was behind the raw numbers.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by packs

I really do think there is a case for DiMaggio over Mays and Aaron. Sure, short career and not even 500 homers, but there are very few players better than him. His overall slugging, OPS and OPS+ figures are very close to Mays and Aaron. I do realize Mays and Aaron's longevity are pretty much unsurpassed except for each other. But what a player DiMaggio was behind the raw numbers.

I think OPS+ does a pretty good job of measuring relative performance, at least over the last 100 years. The top right handers in the modern era, by OPS+, are:

1.Trout
2.Hornsby
3.Suttles
T4.Foxx
T4.Judge

The next five, ignoring juicers, are:

6.Greenberg
T7.Allen
T7.Thomas
T9.Aaron
T9.Dimaggio
T9.Mays

Trout and Judge will probably drop some as they get towards the end of their careers, but still they are in select company surrounding Hornsby and Foxx. Dick Allen had an amazing career in the era of cavernous parks and high mounds. Frank Thomas's achievements get overlooked because he played in the Selig/Reinsdorf PED-approved years.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by packs

I really do think there is a case for DiMaggio over Mays and Aaron. Sure, short career and not even 500 homers, but there are very few players better than him. His overall slugging, OPS and OPS+ figures are very close to Mays and Aaron. I do realize Mays and Aaron's longevity are pretty much unsurpassed except for each other. But what a player DiMaggio was behind the raw numbers.

Interesting that all three have the same OPS+. According to OPS+ the winner is Mike Trout, but keep in mind he is still in his prime and his OPS+ could go down. Also the 1960s were a low scoring era. The 30's were higher. I believe one year the NL averaged over 300. For that reason I would go with Aaron. He did it much longer, almost twice as many plate appearances as DiMaggio.

Rank Player (yrs, age) Adjusted OPS+ PA Bats
7 Mike Trout (12, 30) 176 6159 R
8 Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 175 9481 R
Mule Suttles+ (21) 172 3649 R
14 Pete Browning (13) 163 5315 R
Jimmie Foxx+ (20) 163 9677 R
Aaron Judge (7, 30) 163 3161 R
Mark McGwire (16) 163 7660 R
18 Dave Orr (8) 162 3411 R
19 Hank Greenberg+ (13) 159 6098 R
23 Dick Allen (15) 156 7315 R
Frank Thomas+ (19) 156 10075 R
25 Henry Aaron+ (23) 155 13941 R
Joe DiMaggio+ (13) 155 7672 R
Willie Mays+ (23) 155 12545 R

[Rad_Hazard]

Originally Posted by rats60

Aaron played his career in hitters parks. From 1966-1974, the easiest hitters park in MLB. Mays played most of his career (1958 on) in pitchers parks.

This is very true. To do what Mays did in Candlestick was absolutely insane.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Rad_Hazard

This is very true. To do what Mays did in Candlestick was absolutely insane.

Nailed it.

Living out here has taught me that the famous (and misappropriated) Mark Twain quote, "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco," is a huge understatement. Even playing softball in these parts on a windswept 'summer' (Ha!!) day is a nightmare.

New quote proposal:
"In New York, they have the wind chill factor in winter. In San Francisco, they have it in summer!" (Take that, fake Mark Twain!!)

[sniffy5]

I think Dimaggio was a bit of a jerk from what books I’ve read. And I’d bet his anti-social whatever disorder helped him to basically have ice in his veins. 56 everyone… and then another 20…

[sniffy5]

And throw in 9 rings in what, 13 years in cavernous old school yankee stadium. 9 rings! We shower Jordan with his five rings, and rightfully so. Bro’s, I hear you all. Never struck out. Don’t ever forget how meaningful it is to put the ball in play. There’s a good argument that Joe D was the best player ever. Again, he was not a good person. Dude was a winner on par with basically no one…

[charlietheexterminator]

I can only vouch for the players that I saw. Just think of the great pitchers Mays & Aaron faced.

1- Willie Mays
2 - Hank Aaron
3 - Pujols