Cello Pack Fake?

[BobC]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Again. I have never seen anyone assert that they were a Topps-issued product. So yes, one could ask Topps, but I'm not sure why that would be necessary. I would be more interested to know if the repacking (for at least some of them) occured in 1963, or if they are all post 1980's shams. From what I can tell the majority here believe that these are not "vintage era" (pre-1980) repacks at all.

Again, my mistake then as I thought there were some that still weren't sure if these were Topps issued or not, and wasn't confining that to just the people posting in this thread.

And I am actually curious, like yourself and some others, as to who was doing these repacks, when they did start, and how they were being distributed (retail stores, flea markets, etc.), as well. And though it may be a reach, did anyone think to contact Topps about these on the off chance that they actually may know something about them? Though not especially likely, it is possible that whoever started doing these had contacted Topps to see if they would have an issue with what they ended up doing. Or upon finding out about these Christmas and other packs and seeing them out there for sale, someone from Topps may have been charged with investigating who was doing this to make sure no lines were being crossed in regard to the Topps name or products. Would have thought that would be a rather obvious source to at least question if someone were truly and very seriously investigating this issue. I'm only curious, and not that concerned to contact Topps myself. Just wondering if someone else may have thought to contact and ask Topps though, and if so, what they found out.

And I go along with the majority in thinking these aren't likely "vintage" either. What throws me though are the claims that some people have opened these and actually found some valuable cards in them. One would tend to think that by the 80's, the more valuable cards from the much earlier vintage sets would be well known, and therefore very unlikely to have been included by scammers putting together these then sham packs. Or is it possible the people making statements about finding valuable cards in one of the repacks, or supposedly showing it on a video of one of these repacks being opened, are also party to the sham? It is also possible that a scammer putting these together may not have known every valuable card in the sets, and mistakenly missed and included a few that some very lucky person(s) found. Honestly don't know, and realize this is something we may never truly know.