Judge’s 62nd hR Different Perspective

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by raulus

Mostly I was curious if you were celebrating him as a player, or celebrating him because he happened to belong to your team. It seems relevant because this is very much an individual achievement, albeit with an assist from the ballpark. I guess now we know a bit more about why youÂ’re celebrating this achievement.

Not that thereÂ’s anything wrong with being a fanboy of any given team. It just gives me a better idea of your motives for celebrating this player this year.

Honest, I don't follow baseball that much. I did get worked up when Aaron Judge hit the headlines in 2017. I noted here and there what was happening since then. I felt bad about his injuries, though I imagine the Yanks helped him deal with those with strength training, rest, but no illegal drugs.

Then 2022 comes along, and it's 2017 all over again, though this time he really seems to be carrying his team with crucial hits, fielding gems, and just anything he can do to help the team win. Without PEDS!

I thought with the acquisition of Stanton, the Yanks would have another Ruth-Gehrig or Mantle-Maris. When both are healthy...KER-BLAMOs happen. Without PEDS!

Sure, I like it that Aaron Judge is a Yankee. My all-time favorite player is Mickey Mantle, so there's some connection. Would I be so enraptured if he was killing 'em in Colorado?

Probaby not.

Shoeless Moe says there's "ZERO chance" he's not a Yankee next season. I agree because Aaron Judge is a different kind of person than some of the other "MONEYBALL" players. Yeah, for sure, his agent will demand "a Jupiter" multi-year package. He deserves that. I just don't think Aaron Judge will walk away from the Yankee organization, if the Yanks offer him the "BONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! numbers. I know it will challenge the Yankees to come up with that kind of a sky-high many-million dollar package, but if any team can do it, they can. Let's face it, without Judge, the interest in the Yankees in 2023 is virtually minuscule. At 30, his peak probably won't last too many more years. Still, nobody can take away what he achieved this year. One for the ages, or at least 61 long years. And without PEDS!

I could be very wrong. I doubt it. But I'll be the first to admit I was wrong and spare you the "I TOLD YA SO!"

In the end, I do feel Aaron is the kind of man that appreciates and remembers all those little fans of his, just like Mickey Mantle. What I mean to say is, Mantle FORCED HIMSELF to play in a lot of pain because he did not want to disappoint any kids in the stands that might be seeing him play in person for the only time in their life. Aaron Judge is like that, too. He does it without PEDS, too!

I probably sound as if I'm "way out there" to some of youse guys, but that's how my mind thinks. A romantic / sentimental view I suppose. Yup, cause I'm a mushy, sentimental slob. Aaron's not gonna see these words, and I'm sure what I say would not mean anything to him, but Aaron-----

PLEASE STAY WITH THE YANKEES!!!

And while you're at it, continue to stay away from PEDS! Your legacy will be golden!

--- Brian Powell

PS--And JimmyC, Cheers back at you, mate!!

[Bigdaddy]

From MLB's own website. No asterisks, no steroid notations, no notes about season length. Just homeruns in a season. End of discussion.

[Misunderestimated]

Judge had a GREAT season ... He's a feel-good story even if he is a Yankee and he's so big he literally dwarfs the competition.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/22513177400...p2047675.l2557

If you insist on voiding suspected PED seasons Judge set a single-season HR record (assuming Judge is "clean" -- which I think he is). I don't subscribe to that myself -- the leader is much-maligned Barry Lamar Bonds. Like it or not.

The American League record thing seems overblown, outdated, and almost quaint. Ever since inter-league play began league records became much less meaningful to me. ...It's like figuring out who holds the NBA single-season western conference record for something. (BTW I think Chamberlain wins either way for scoring
The NL vs AL distinction has dissolved further with the universal adoption of the DH.

The NL single-season record for HR used to be Hack Wilson (56 in 1930) .... I'm not even sure who holds it now if you exclude the PED suspected? Ryan Howard, Luis Gonzalez, or still Wilson ?

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Misunderestimated

The NL single-season record for HR used to be Hack Wilson (56 in 1930) .... I'm not even sure who holds it now if you exclude the PED suspected? Ryan Howard, Luis Gonzalez, or still Wilson ?

Giancarlo Stanton had 59 for the Marlins in 2017 and Howard had 58 for the Fleas in 2006.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Misunderestimated

Judge had a GREAT season ... He's a feel-good story even if he is a Yankee and he's so big he literally dwarfs the competition.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/22513177400...p2047675.l2557

If you insist on voiding suspected PED seasons Judge set a single-season HR record (assuming Judge is "clean" -- which I think he is). I don't subscribe to that myself -- the leader is much-maligned Barry Lamar Bonds. Like it or not.

The American League record thing seems overblown, outdated, and almost quaint. Ever since inter-league play began league records became much less meaningful to me. ...It's like figuring out who holds the NBA single-season western conference record for something. (BTW I think Chamberlain wins either way for scoring
The NL vs AL distinction has dissolved further with the universal adoption of the DH.

The NL single-season record for HR used to be Hack Wilson (56 in 1930) .... I'm not even sure who holds it now if you exclude the PED suspected? Ryan Howard, Luis Gonzalez, or still Wilson ?

I agree that the focus on Judge setting the AL and Yankees team record for home runs seemed a little odd. I'm a big Phillies fan, and I don't remember much being mentioned of him setting the NL home run record in 2006 or Stanton breaking it in 2017.

With Judge, I think it was clearly a way to give him credit for some kind of record without having the discussion of whether or not all of the PED tainted numbers are the true home run record.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by brian1961

Shoeless Moe says there's "ZERO chance" he remains a Yankee.

You misread what I said.

I said Zero chance he is not a Yankee next season. Meaning he will be a Yankee next season.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

You misread what I said.

I said Zero chance he is not a Yankee next season. Meaning he will be a Yankee next season.

Just to reiterate.....ZERO

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Just to reiterate.....ZERO

It’s happening!!!!!

https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge...ng-with-giants

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by raulus

It’s happening!!!!!

https://www.mlb.com/news/aaron-judge...ng-with-giants

Nah.......just got to go thru the motions.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Nah.......just got to go thru the motions.

Looks like the bidding war is getting started!

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/y...on-per-report/

[etsmith]

I think what Aaron judge did is pretty special, he's only the third hitter to ever hit 60 home runs in a season without cheating to do it. Sounds like a pretty spectacular accomplishment to me.

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Just to reiterate.....ZERO

Sorry, Moe. You're right; I miss-read what you wrote. My bad. I updated my post, though it's irrelevant at this point. Be that as it may, you were spot on, Shoeless Moe; Mr. Judge remains a Yankee!!! --- Brian Powell

[insidethewrapper]

Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

[raulus]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

In all fairness to the seller, there seem to have been plenty of people who agreed with that strategy.

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Seller turned down $ 3 million, what a big mistake .

If the guy who offered 3 mil won it for 1.5 then I'd agree with you, but that isn't what happened.

I have seen this mentioned a lot since the sale but the consignor himself came out and said he was uncomfortable with the lawyer/firm that relayed that and another large offer on behalf of 2 interested parties so I think there is more than meets the eye to those "turned down" offers and how genuine/legit they were.

Goldin also confirmed that the people that made those 2 offers were well aware of the auction and were not among the bidders (even under bidders) which also makes it seem like the offers were fishy or at least had more to them.

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[oldjudge]

Nothing fishy about it. I'm pretty sure I know who bid $3 million for the ball and am not surprised that he did not bid in Golden.