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Old 10-09-2022, 12:51 PM
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I for one am sure not ignoring it! SIXTY-TWO HOME RUNS is freaking awesome! Aaron Judge is clean as a whistle, a very nice guy, very close to his parents, and a lot of etcetras. Come on, he broke THE major league record that had stood for 61 years.

I know all the guys that have yelped til they're hoarse that Bonds, McGwire, and Sosa hit more, and Bonds has the official MLB record, and so on, ad nauseum.

But they cheated. They took PEDS til they exploded in size and strength. Their numbers exploded, and many collectors are still all "ga-ga" over those numbers. Maybe MLB says those contemptible characters have the legitimate records, but the people who vote to enshrine the right people in the Baseball Hall of Fame have for years steadfastly refused to put those cheaters in.

One of them, Mark McGwire, finally confessed that he had juiced up with PEDS.

It's a shame this board is mired with so many skeptics and cynics towards the achievements of Aaron Judge. There's even debate over whether Ohtani or Judge should win the AL MVP. Aaron Judge should be the unanimous choice as AL MVP. I take the term valuable as valuable, not best player. Aaron wasn't the only Yankee that contributed to their 99 wins, but I say without Judge they would have crumbled in mediocrity. That's just my opinion, sure; regardless, I know I'm right probably just as much as Judge's naysayers or poison pens think they're actually right. So I say, and I'll say a thousand times----WHAT AARON JUDGE DID MOST ASSUREDLY IS A BIG DEAL!

HOO-RAY FOR AARON JUDGE. HE BEAT THE ODDS. HE BUSTED ROGER MARIS'S 61-EAR-OLD RECORD!!!!!

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I for one do not bgrudge Aaron Judge. My point was I do not think he or any other player could perform as well as Maris had they been put under the same pressure. My answer is no.
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Old 10-09-2022, 01:06 PM
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I will celebrate him even more when he hits 63 for Baltimore next year! Sorry he won’t sign for the Sox or Mets!!!!
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Old 10-09-2022, 02:00 PM
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Agree with Peter and Tony there was ZERO pressure on Judge this year.

That was a stupid comment by whoever said it and if anyone agreed with it.

He was playing baseball for basically 25-30-40 Million a season in his future and sure wasn't hurting going in.

Completely different times from Maris and Aaron, now that was pressure.

For the most part other than closers there really isn't pressure in baseball, until the Playoffs and World Series.
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Old 10-09-2022, 04:27 PM
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He was playing baseball for basically 25-30-40 Million a season in his future and sure wasn't hurting going in.
The bizarre part to me is that while Ohtani and Judge are going to make 30-40 mill a year, someone like Charlie Morton (a textbook definition of replaceable, and getting old and regressing no less) is getting 20 million next year.

I wouldn't think that Morton is worth 5% of those other two guys to a franchise, much less more than half
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Old 10-09-2022, 04:38 PM
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I for one do not bgrudge Aaron Judge. My point was I do not think he or any other player could perform as well as Maris had they been put under the same pressure. My answer is no.
Well said, Tony. The pressure on Roger Maris was excruciating. I got interested in cards in 1961, at age 7. I was happy for Roger Maris. Sure, I really knew nothing about baseball history, and so on. Come next spring, all I knew was that I wanted the card of Roger Maris more than any other.

Anyways, as I got older, I came to have more and more respect and admiration for Roger Maris. I tried to get his tougher cards, and with God's help, I did. Regardless of what Aaron Judge has done, and I love and am proud of Judge, I will always love Roger Maris, too. He got the record when I was 7. I'm now 68, and the record has finally been officially broken, and it's great. Aaron Judge deserved it. I'm glad he did not have to face the CONSTANT pressure, scrutiny, and immature, petty, and outright hatred of so many people that Roger did.

I don't mind having several guys to collect, but at my age, I can only allow myself a few. For one thing, my son has absolute no interest in my baseball and hockey card collections. That's ok; I helped him with all my might in what HE was interested in----Sonic the Hedgehog, and Detective Conan Edogawa.

Well, I'm getting verbose---again. Take care, my fellow collecting warrior.

--- Brian Powell

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Old 10-09-2022, 04:44 PM
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All time single season home run leaders within a 162 game season:

Judge - 62 - 2022
Maris - 61 - 1961
Ruth - 60 - 1927 ( 154 games )
Ruth- 59 - 1921 ( 154 games )
Stanton - 59 - 2017

Period - end of story….

And if Judge or Stanton show up with steroid use at any time, they are off the list - that simple…..don’t think that will be the case…
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All time single season home run leaders within a 162 game season:

Judge - 62 - 2022
Maris - 61 - 1961
Ruth - 60 - 1927 ( 154 games )
Ruth- 59 - 1921 ( 154 games )
Stanton - 59 - 2017

Period - end of story….

And if Judge or Stanton show up with steroid use at any time, they are off the list - that simple…..don’t think that will be the case…
Missing several here.

What one personally thinks the record should be recognized as and what the record factually is are different things. Many seem to be using the former as the later.
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Old 10-09-2022, 06:11 PM
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Missing several here.

What one personally thinks the record should be recognized as and what the record factually is are different things. Many seem to be using the former as the later.
Cheating is factual…..

We all have our opinions….. Cheers…
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