The Best Pitcher in Baseball Is?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Johnson vaporizing the seagull in front of Calvin Murray was a classic.

Clemens election seems almost inevitable at this point to me. With David Ortiz being exempted because people like him, Bonds and Clemens will almost certainly be put in by the committees at some point. I’m agnostic on whether the roiders should get in, but the double standards will be difficult to defend over the years and as there is no process for removal, it will be easier to induct the roiders. Besides, they have to drive revenue and the exclusions will hurt the bottom line. Cutting out half of a generations stars will hurt attendance and induction ceremony profit too much.

The way it will end up, IMO, is Clemens Bonds and likely McGwire eventually will get in but Sosa and Palmeiro, never. Not sure that is fair on the numbers.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The way it will end up, IMO, is Clemens Bonds and likely McGwire eventually will get in but Sosa and Palmeiro, never. Not sure that is fair on the numbers.

I suspect this is correct. Perhaps I am a bit more cynical but after Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, I think it will come down to a popularity contest of who will drive revenue. Sosa has a chance, Palmeiro unlikely though he is obviously deserving (if roiders are let in).

I’m more okay with giving a pass to these guys than to the guys who got busted long after the rule was established. McGwire I find especially sympathetic; he was done around the time it became a controversy and my understanding is he didn’t really actually break any rule. He didn’t see to have any idea when he casually admitted to it that it was going to spark such a huge controversy and changes to the game. Bonds and Clemens started using before the rules but probably kept using as the controversy gained steam and it became a “don’t do that”.

[gonefishin]

Verlander is still burning it up - making a run again for the Cy Young this year. As of today, lowest ERA @ 1.87 (1st), tie for most wins (16), .85 WHIP (1st)

[G1911]

Originally Posted by gonefishin

Verlander is still burning it up - making a run again for the Cy Young this year. As of today, lowest ERA @ 1.87 (1st), tie for most wins (16), .85 WHIP (1st)

Age 39 and coming off an injury, and he’s the best pitcher in the league again.

[gonefishin]

Originally Posted by G1911

Age 39 and coming off an injury, and he’s the best pitcher in the league again.

He is, but I get a little concerned about his body holding up. Not everyone can be like Nolan Ryan!