Biggest MVP snubs ever

[rats60]

George Brett in 1985.

Brett . 335/.436/.585 OPS + 179
Mattingly .324/.371/.567 OPS + 156

Brett led his team to a 1st place finish. Brett also played a premium position on defense, providing positive value and winning a gold glove. Mattingly wasn't even the best player on the 2nd place Yankees. He drove in 145 runs because Rickey Henderson was always in scoring position ahead of him, .419 OBP 80 SB and 146 runs. Wade Boggs also had a better season and should have finished ahead of Mattingly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Arod losing to Juan Gonzalez in 1996? Hornsby losing to Dazzy Vance the year he hit .424?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Arod losing to Juan Gonzalez in 1996? Hornsby losing to Dazzy Vance the year he hit .424?

Arod and others losing to Juan Gonzalez in 1998 as well. Juan must have been a great guy and pal to the voters.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Arod and others losing to Juan Gonzalez in 1998 as well. Juan must have been a great guy and pal to the voters.

In the mid 90s you could have just punched Juan Gonz' ticket to the Hall.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

In the mid 90s you could have just punched Juan Gonz' ticket to the Hall.

Downhill at age 31, steroid era, and WAR not liking him have really hurt. He was one of the most fun guys in the 90’s. I thought he was a shoe in as a fan at the time. Never punch the ticket until it’s over.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Downhill at age 31, steroid era, and WAR not liking him have really hurt. He was one of the most fun guys in the 90’s. I thought he was a shoe in as a fan at the time. Never punch the ticket until it’s over.

He was pretty vehement in his denials, but even his owner said he suspected him and believed Canseco.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He was pretty vehement in his denials, but even his owner said he suspected him and believed Canseco.

He’s in ‘double trouble’ on it I think. If he is guilty, he’s out because only David Ortiz is exempt from that standard. If he didn’t do it, he isn’t in because he didn’t create as much value as some of the roiders. Fred McGriff, Carlos Delgado not even making it past 1 ballot, there’s a whole group of guys who would be considered or in if they didn’t play at the same time as the roiders, whether or not they are guilty themselves.

It still amazes me how well Jose Canseco’s accusations have aged.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by rats60

George Brett in 1985.

Brett . 335/.436/.585 OPS + 179
Mattingly .324/.371/.567 OPS + 156

Brett led his team to a 1st place finish. Brett also played a premium position on defense, providing positive value and winning a gold glove. Mattingly wasn't even the best player on the 2nd place Yankees. He drove in 145 runs because Rickey Henderson was always in scoring position ahead of him, .419 OBP 80 SB and 146 runs. Wade Boggs also had a better season and should have finished ahead of Mattingly.

There are many great examples but I tend to agree that George Brett was the most deserving that Mattingly That Year

HOWEVER, I think that Ricky Henderson was more deserving that year.
He had .314/.419/.516 but he had 24 Home Runs, 72 RBI's, 146 Runs 80 Stolen Bases
But Brett and Donnie both put up great years so it is hard to argue with any of them

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

There are many great examples but I tend to agree that George Brett was the most deserving that Mattingly That Year

HOWEVER, I think that Ricky Henderson was more deserving that year.
He had .314/.419/.516 but he had 24 Home Runs, 72 RBI's, 146 Runs 80 Stolen Bases
But Brett and Donnie both put up great years so it is hard to argue with any of them

Yeah, I think Rickey deserved it with his 9.9 WAR and his 146 runs (in only 143 games), much of which was because of his 80 steals (and only 10 caught). Note that this was tied for his career high in WAR with the lone season he did win MVP (1990).

I think Wade Boggs would be my #2 in 1985 as he led the league in Avg .368 and OBP with .450 and his absurd 240 hits. His WAR of 9.1 was higher than Brett (8.3) and Mattingly (6.5). 1985 was arguably Boggs' best year.