Gun ownership poll

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Is it any worse than letting a teenage driver have a cellphone in their hands?

In many states it is illegal to text or have handheld cellphone use while driving.

I wish I could say the same for allowing 18 year-olds to buy AR-15s or similar weapons.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

In many states it is illegal to text or have handheld cellphone use while driving.

I wish I could say the same for allowing 18 year-olds to buy AR-15s or similar weapons.

Yes but yet a large % of people still do it.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Yes but yet a large % of people still do it.

Ahh yes, the "laws don't work so why have them" argument.

I would prefer to live in a society where there are enforceable laws. Even if they don't always act as a deterrent, at least there are consequences when people get caught.

Granted, many active shooters have a death wish and will never have to face sentencing.

But you do realize that the Uvalde shooter legally purchased an AR-15 on his 18th birthday? I would argue that if he needed to wait until he was 19, 20, or even 21 to legally purchase the gun, that he may not have attained the gun when he was 18. Similarly, if we had to wait a couple of weeks to obtain the weapon after applying for one, there is a chance he would have calmed down by then.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Ahh yes, the "laws don't work so why have them" argument.

I would prefer to live in a society where there are enforceable laws. Even if they don't always act as a deterrent, at least there are consequences when people get caught.

Granted, many active shooters have a death wish and will never have to face sentencing.

But you do realize that the Uvalde shooter legally purchased an AR-15 on his 18th birthday? I would argue that if he needed to wait until he was 19, 20, or even 21 to legally purchase the gun, that he may not have done so. Similarly, if we had to wait a couple of weeks to obtain the weapon after applying for one, there is a chance he would have calmed down by then.

NOBODY says laws don't work so why have them, well maybe morons do. Many say criminals do not obey laws. There is a huge difference.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Ahh yes, the "laws don't work so why have them" argument.

I would prefer to live in a society where there are enforceable laws. Even if they don't always act as a deterrent, at least there are consequences when people get caught.

Granted, many active shooters have a death wish and will never have to face sentencing.

But you do realize that the Uvalde shooter legally purchased an AR-15 on his 18th birthday? I would argue that if he needed to wait until he was 19, 20, or even 21 to legally purchase the gun, that he may not have attained the gun when he was 18. Similarly, if we had to wait a couple of weeks to obtain the weapon after applying for one, there is a chance he would have calmed down by then.

No it's the lack of respect for the laws and law enforcement in todays society backed up by your first paragraph.