"The Scandal" Turns 3

[japhi]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

As a result of all of this, I have started buying more modern cards. With vintage cards, you can soak them, remove stains, whiten the paper stock, press out light creases, press down corners, recolor them, etc. Now, try doing all of this on modern card stock - you can't!

The only thing that I have to look out for when I buy modern is a) trimming and b) to make sure the jersey patch wasn't switched. However, most of the modern cards that I buy don't have patches, and so this isn't much of an issue.

Good luck with that. I remember reading a post on BO where they outed something like 50 McDavid FWA's as being trimmed. Apparently they come big from the factory and guys were trimming these into 10s in bulk. Not exactly a cheap card either.

Suspect it would be incredibly easy to do the same with most young guns. In fact, you could probably invest in a modern cutter and trim your way to glory with modern hockey, the TPG's have not demonstrated any ability to spot micro trimming on modern cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Keep in mind that with strict rules of evidence and a very high burden of proof, not all crimes can be successfully prosecuted in court. At one point Brent Huigens was a cooperating witness and his rumored decision not to cooperate may have changed the prosecutor's calculus. If indeed this is all over from the criminal justice angle, and we don't know that, I think evidentiary considerations likely were more the reason than either the FBI or the prosecutor considering this unimportant. Prosecutors only like to pursue cases they feel they have a strong chance of winning. The evidence in the court of public opinion is quite different from what is admissible in court. They couldn't just put up screenshots of Blowout threads.

All speculation of course.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Posted in the related thread as well:

dumb question. How long (without the additional delaying effects of a pandemic) did the investigation of Mastro take? Doug Allen? Operation Bullpen? Was there a point in those investigations where people were like "see they didn't do anything because they haven't been charged and it's been 'X' amount of time"???

[Peter_Spaeth]

OOf.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=149

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

OOf.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=149

Where there is a Will there is a Way.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Where there is a Will there is a Way.

I think you could color in a card with a crayon and they'd grade it lol.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think you could color in a card with a crayon and they'd grade it lol.

...Beckett threw in the towel on this 1931 Metropolitan Studio rookie of Ole Diz , because ( I think ) the quality of the artsy little kid's outlining and coloring made it appear to be from its own set....it's that good..... look at the shoes even.......

..they kept the eighteen dollars though.....

..

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by japhi

Good luck with that. I remember reading a post on BO where they outed something like 50 McDavid FWA's as being trimmed. Apparently they come big from the factory and guys were trimming these into 10s in bulk. Not exactly a cheap card either.

Suspect it would be incredibly easy to do the same with most young guns. In fact, you could probably invest in a modern cutter and trim your way to glory with modern hockey, the TPG's have not demonstrated any ability to spot micro trimming on modern cards.

It's actually not that difficult to tell, well, for me anyways. All I do is lay the modern card down on a flat surface and then I place a small flashlight next to it at a certain angle. In the next step, I use a loupe and study the edges and corners. Believe it or not, but I have BGS 9.5 cards with bits of corner wear and bits of chipping on the edges. In other words, they are not supposed to look flawless. And it's even easier to tell when you study the backs. The backs usually have a different design compared to the fronts, such as colored borders, colored corners, etc. Again, even pack pulled examples should have a bit of "whiteness" showing on the corners there. I stay the hell away from modern cards that look perfect because I don't believe they came out of packs looking perfect.