"The Scandal" Turns 3

[aconte]

Before that there was the t206’s with bad autographs. Right? How did that one get resolved?


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[vintagetoppsguy]

Like it or not, Jake was 100% right and most here were wrong.

[Natedog]

I'm sure a lot of those "outed" PSA cards have been bought and sold many times over since, and as long as money is being made, nobody seems to care.

[Keith H. Thompson]

I wish calvindog was on my side. Keith H Thompson

[robw1959]

Although nothing has changed in the hobby with regard to buying and selling, I think many buyers may still be looking more closely at graded cards, especially PSA cards. I know I do. I do think PSA has adopted a more rigorous grading process to earn that public trust back again, but that's about it.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Although nothing has changed in the hobby with regard to buying and selling, I think many buyers may still be looking more closely at graded cards, especially PSA cards. I know I do. I do think PSA has adopted a more rigorous grading process to earn that public trust back again, but that's about it.

I saw a great deal of high priced SGC cards listed as being altered on the Blowout threads so the issue seems to be far from isolated to PSA. I am a nothing in the hobby but to those I spoke with about a year ago many of the guys mentioned on Blowout are still submitting to PSA so dunno that PSA has earned the trust back as much as their graded material sells for strong prices...still.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I saw a great deal of high priced SGC cards listed as being altered on the Blowout threads so the issue seems to be far from isolated to PSA. I am a nothing in the hobby but to those I spoke with about a year ago many of the guys mentioned on Blowout are still submitting to PSA so dunno that PSA has earned the trust back as much as their graded material sells for strong prices...still.

Possibly the change in ownership?

[Flintboy]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Although nothing has changed in the hobby with regard to buying and selling, I think many buyers may still be looking more closely at graded cards, especially PSA cards. I know I do. I do think PSA has adopted a more rigorous grading process to earn that public trust back again, but that's about it.

You’re kidding right?

[ullmandds]

I admit I was wrong...I thought for sure somebody would pay a big price/do some jail time.

If that didn't derail the hobby I'm not sure anything can?

[egri]

Originally Posted by aconte

Before that there was the t206’s with bad autographs. Right? How did that one get resolved?


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I remember that as well, but I haven't heard anything about it in years.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by aconte

Before that there was the t206’s with bad autographs. Right? How did that one get resolved?


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Originally Posted by egri

I remember that as well, but I haven't heard anything about it in years.

That one was getting hushed up very quickly. I was amazed at how many people wanted that to go away and not be talked about. It worked to because it was like "poof" and it was swept under the rug.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by egri

I remember that as well, but I haven't heard anything about it in years.

One thing which came out of that event was SGC Closed down their autograph authentication service. That was a significant reaction in my opinion.

Rich

[ALBB]

Not much has changed..and those doctored cards are still out there..in somebody's collection...and they know it....and someday will try to pass them on to another collector

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

One thing which came out of that event was SGC Closed down their autograph authentication service. That was a significant reaction in my opinion.

Rich

Yes.... and far fewer (meaning hardly any) signed T206 have hit the market since then. I'd say it was a positive outcome.

Perhaps not so much for the altered card scandal (which is waaaaay larger in scope). Perhaps the FBI is still on it, but it's looking like the only real casualty is PWCC, who was booted from ebay.

If nothing else, the sleuths at Blowout helped us to steer clear of a whole bunch of dishonest sellers. That's some consolation, anyway.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I will be beyond disappointed if there are no consequences for the card doctors who have polluted this hobby. But even if that’s the case, it’s certainly been interesting and an education.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I will be beyond disappointed if there are no consequences for the card doctors who have polluted this hobby. But even if that’s the case, it’s certainly been interesting and an education.

+1. Hopefully those who committed so much fraud will get their just dues. And that means some type of punishment other than only giving refunds of cards they altered and sold to deceive.
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