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I grew up in an AL city, Washington, but saw Willie at an all star game towards the end of his career. As a kid, it was a thrill.
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Unfortunately, this is how I see it...
422. Mourning Track Power Buying up cards of a very old former player, for the sole purpose of selling them at exorbitant prices on the gigantic bubble that will surely come after he passes away.
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The price disparity between Mantle, Mays, and Aaron cards is crazy. One Mantle card typically costs more than the combined Mays and Aaron cards in the same year and grade. Most have Mays and Aaron ranked higher on all-time great lists, yet it’s almost a two-to-one price ratio with the lesser player having the most value. Obviously, there are several factors that contribute to this, and I understand them, but it’s still astonishing. I’ll personally take two cards and the better players over Mantle.
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Somewhere, on Net54, I posted something about Mays being the best ballplayer I ever saw play in person. I had not recognized that until I perused Bill James's Historical Baseball Abstract (I still think its best form is the original edition, hardbound). At that point, I reluctantly let go of the idea that it was Stan Musial (seen in one game in 1963 and thereby becoming a lifelong Cardinals fan), and that instead Willie Mays was better. I saw Mays play in the old Sportsman's Park, then the cookie cutter Busch Stadium, and also in Candlestick once. Willie was entertaining along with his greatness. He'd break late and slow on a ball close to him, he seemed to always catch the ball while moving. He could hit, hustle, run bases, drive in runs, he was a force out there. I have a handful of his cards from his playing days. None are mint nor near mint, they're maybe VG-EX... A couple I collected as a kid, I think the rest were gathered after he was voted into the Hall.
George Davis is a subject in the T206's. In the late 1980's I was looking through the T206 lists, and I realized Davis wasn't in the Hall. But to me it seemed like he should be, and that maybe one day he would be. I think I bought 2 of his cards, and then waited. And he got elected!!! I sold one maybe 2 or 3 years later. And then I sold the other a few years later when I sold almost all of my white border cards. Point is, I've bought cards anticipating someone getting elected into the Hall. But I've not bought any cards anticipating someone would die. I'd not thought about that before, and I'm sure people will buy cards anticipating that, but I don't think I will be doing that. |
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Where's the evidence of this narrowing Mantle Mays gap? Seems in line to me with what it has been for a long time
1965 PSA 8 Mantle last 5 /23/2022 $3,995.00 8 175118348292 eBay mjschillaci Auction 49865113 1/11/2022 $4,516.00 8 363674561810 eBay probstein123 Auction 55018495 9/28/2021 $3,859.20 8 543 Lelands Late Summer Classic 2021 Auction 20094480 8/12/2021 $4,212.75 8 366 Mile High Card Company July/August 2021 Auction Auction 12581809 7/31/2021 $4,301.00 8 144119876379 eBay pwcc_auctions Auction 09074020 1965 PSA 8 Mays last 4 12/12/2021 $1,499.00 8 234332009171 eBay pb19991 Auction 23502925 11/29/2021 $1,246.79 8 265410046760 eBay 4_sharp_corners Auction 06025614 11/25/2021 $1,567.00 8 373794998777 eBay probstein123 Auction 11205557 11/9/2021 $1,619.00 8 384478175189 eBay probstein123 Auction 41747188
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More the gap I was thinking of were cards between !951-3 in exmt and above. The example I used in the current PWCC auction, fresh as it is, was something I had never seen before, 2 RC's, same PSA grade, the same auction. I am sure Mick's card will top Willie's by auction end but an interesting moment, nonetheless
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True, it feels like the gap is closing but the data does seem to show mantle and mays are acquiring value proportionately
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I'll always remember my Grand Pa turned to me and whispered, "That's Willie Mays". Pointing him out as if I needed to know who he was for some reason. (Like he did the day they retired the big 3-Dodger's numbers and I sat next to Casey Stengel). I remember Mays dropped a fly ball in center and got picked off first base that day, LOL. I read somewhere he only dropped 2 fly balls in his career. I have been truly blessed in this life. Good times. |
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Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %) |
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Here is my newest addition. At one time I had the Topps playing days run minus the 1952 in lower grade. On my list he is 5th behind Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb, and Babe Ruth.
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Very nice Ben!
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I found this Willie in the wild a few months ago.
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Ben, I think Willie would really enjoy your artistic ability. You should post it to him, if that is possible.
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My only Mays card. Always liked it.
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I didn't make that. The artist and fellow member John English made it. It arrived at my house about an hour ago. I will get it and the 51 Bowman Mickey Mantle framed in the next few days.
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My father saw him play in Trenton before he got called up. Said he was the best player he ever saw play. Plus when Ty Cobb was old he said he was the only player he would pay to see. Those two opinions are good enough for me!
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Love this one...
1971toppsgreatestmomentsmays.jpg Created this one... 1972williemaystraded07.jpg Grabbed these ones recently*... 1967mays1969mays.jpg *Pardon the grammar.
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Posting this one because I don't think it's made an appearance in this thread, and it's one of my favorites. Notoriously difficult to find centered, which is why I "settled" for this one.
1952 Bowman is the set I'm most familiar with, and I'll say I think Mays has closed the gap a little bit in this set over the last five years...and honestly he should. The Mays card is a more scarce High# in 1952 Bowman and has a lower population overall. Wouldn't surprise me if the Mays card eventually catches Mantle in this set for that very reason. Mays.JPG |
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1955 Topps Willie Mays :-)
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There are just some players that get more hobby love than others........Ruth, Cobb, Mantle, Speaker, Mathewson, Walter J, Clemente, Gehrig, Ted Williams, Koufax.....
There are some baffling examples though of greats who don't get as much hobby love as they really deserve....the most glaring example to me is Frank Robinson....he truly was one of the great players of the game (check out his HR, hit, RBI totals) yet his cards can be picked up on the cheap, relative to his contemporaries.....which is great for collectors ![]() Last edited by Svabinsky78; 08-15-2023 at 07:43 AM. |
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