New Ebay Authentication service

[Kris19]

Update:
The seller has now “been quarantined in Hawaii for five days” so will be delayed in shipping the card for eBay authentication. The excuses stage has set in. We likely will not be able to use this as a test case of the process. I will continue to post updates until it is resolved in some way.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Kris19

Update:
The seller has now “been quarantined in Hawaii for five days” so will be delayed in shipping the card for eBay authentication. The excuses stage has set in. We likely will not be able to use this as a test case of the process. I will continue to post updates until it is resolved in some way.

LOL, are packages also quarantined?

[Exhibitman]

Well, there are definitely worse places to be than Hawaii. Heck, I am looking forward to being in Atlantic City next summer, a statement I never thought I'd write.

CSG has unveiled a new logo for the service:

[Jim65]

Does anyone know if the seller gets paid like before or do they have to wait for the card to be authenticated before Ebay releases the funds?

[Kris19]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Does anyone know if the seller gets paid like before or do they have to wait for the card to be authenticated before Ebay releases the funds?

My payment went to eBay for holding until the authentication process is complete. The seller did not receive it.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Does anyone know if the seller gets paid like before or do they have to wait for the card to be authenticated before Ebay releases the funds?

I sold my first $750 card 2 days ago and just received my payout this morning. So that answers that.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Kris19

Update:
The seller has now “been quarantined in Hawaii for five days” so will be delayed in shipping the card for eBay authentication. The excuses stage has set in. We likely will not be able to use this as a test case of the process. I will continue to post updates until it is resolved in some way.

That's interesting. Did the seller maybe just become aware that his fake card was going to be authenticated? If your sale is canceled that would be evidence the process is working.

[RCMcKenzie]

I just read the Sporting News article. What the eBay rep stated is not possible. Every card that sells for $250 or more will be sent to a 3rd party grader to be verified, even SGC and PSA cards.
The 3rd party graders would have to hire 25,000 graders to get the cards to the buyer in a reasonable amount of time. Ebay has to let buyers opt out of this. If I buy from someone I know, I don't want any 3rd party involved. It's really none of their business.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I just read the Sporting News article. What the eBay rep stated is not possible. Every card that sells for $250 or more will be sent to a 3rd party grader to be verified, even SGC and PSA cards.
The 3rd party graders would have to hire 25,000 graders to get the cards to the buyer in a reasonable amount of time. Ebay has to let buyers opt out of this. If I buy from someone I know, I don't want any 3rd party involved. It's really none of their business.

A third party is going to authenticate cards which have already been authenticated?

Do you have a link to the article, Rob?

[RCMcKenzie]

RobertK posted the link to the article in post #55. I could see where a seller wouldn't mind it, just shipping everything to the same place for grading.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

RobertK posted the link to the article in post #55. I could see where a seller wouldn't mind it, just shipping everything to the same place for grading.

Missed that, thanks. As a buyer I no interest in this service. It just adds time and another layer of BS to the whole experience. I found this quote interesting:

"At its simplest, it’s making sure that when someone buys a Kobe Bryant, they get a Kobe Bryant and they don’t accidentally get a LeBron."

Huh? That has nothing to do with this initiative...

[Flintboy]

Maybe it’s the conspiracy theory guy in me coming out, but I think there’s a back door deal between someone working at either CSG or eBay? What makes CSG the know all end all on authenticating cards? I don’t even think they’ve been in business a full year yet. The amount of $$$ going to CSG on this deal has to be pretty high for such a new company.

[bobbyw8469]

Here is a card that Ebay is wanting to send for authencity, but I am telling you up front, this Ty Cobb Sport Kings card is a fake. 100%.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40343161313...0AAOSwr1Vh3gQ9

[jimtodd]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Here is a card that Ebay is wanting to send for authencity, but I am telling you up front, this Ty Cobb Sport Kings card is a fake. 100%.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40343161313...0AAOSwr1Vh3gQ9

If I’m reading the policy right, since the seller doesn’t accept returns, if someone buys this Cobb, they are still stuck w the card. It gets sent to be authenticated, they say “yep it’s a fake. Here’s the fake card you bought that can’t be returned.” Did I miss something?

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

Maybe it’s the conspiracy theory guy in me coming out, but I think there’s a back door deal between someone working at either CSG or eBay? What makes CSG the know all end all on authenticating cards? I don’t even think they’ve been in business a full year yet. The amount of $$$ going to CSG on this deal has to be pretty high for such a new company.

The process will give CSG "access" to people buying a lot of expensive cards - likely will have an opportunity to advertise/market/collect contact information to them in the process!

[Exhibitman]

I imagine the shipping issues will be similar to the global shipping: you are responsible to get the card to CSG, while CSG/eBay are responsible for final shipping.

The interesting thing will be not as described claims after this goes into effect: does the buyer get three days after the item has gone through CSG to then make a claim? Does the CSG thing void the return claims window?

Part of it is also schoolyard rules: punch out a bully or two and the rest go away. eBay has so much fraud and so many item not as described claims that it is trying to send a message to fraudsters: go elsewhere. If it can stop the dozens of fake Wagners, etc., that are causing these claims it will save money in the long run, even if it doesn't end up making this 'free for now' service a 'fee forever' service later. My prediction: a policy where a seller who accumulates a certain # of CSG denials will be banned from the site.

That said, authenticating slabs is over the top. A bit of:



Paul is spot-on: if eBay raises fees or passes through this cost directly to sellers, a lot of them are going to say the hell with it and consign to AHs instead.

[Kris19]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

That's interesting. Did the seller maybe just become aware that his fake card was going to be authenticated? If your sale is canceled that would be evidence the process is working.

Yes, that’s exactly right. He saw the Authenticity Guaranteed and did not know what it meant. He offered to cancel the sale, thinking he needed a “COA.” I had to explain the program/process to him. As of now, he is still planning to send the card in after he returns from “Hawaii.”