New Ebay Authentication service

[Kris19]

Originally Posted by Jobu

I also wonder what happens when someone buys a Jordan rookie in a fake PSA flip, the TPG gives it the thumbs up, and the buyer then sends it to PSA for a reholder to be told it is fake.

Hi Bryan - Since this only applies to raw cards, that scenario will not happen.

[rand1com]

Are they simply verifying it is a real card or are they also saying it has not been tampered with in any way such as trimming, recoloring, etc.?

That would actually be a valuable service for raw cards but I doubt that is what you are getting for no charge.

It also says they check to make sure the item matches the description. So if a seller grades the card VG/EX, how will they say it matches the description without grading the card?

I'm guessing going forward that $750 or higher raw cards will have NO description. It will just state the year and make of the card. It would be crazy to give any additional information to be scrutinized by a 3rd party.

I may buy one just to see how well the system works.

I'm guessing they have not considered the complexity of this service and as others have said it will be not be popular.

[Jobu]

Ah, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

My other question is what happens for cards the TPG can't authenticate?

Originally Posted by Kris19

Hi Bryan - Since this only applies to raw cards, that scenario will not happen.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Jobu

Ah, I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

My other question is what happens for cards the TPG can't authenticate?

I think you are just out of luck in that case because they would have to remove the sealed flip provided by Ebay to authenticate it, and that would void Ebay's authentication.

I'm guessing here, but based on the length of time PSA is taking to grade cards the potential Ebay guarantee window which I think is 180 days would be long gone.

There are many unanswered questions with this policy.

[prestigecollectibles]

Inside eBay's new Authenticity Guarantee for trading cards: 'It'll be a fast service'

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/...914xlepioy0s5v

[Kris19]

I will be the “official” Net54 test case
I bought a card this morning with the Authenticity Guarantee. I am 99.9% sure the card is fake. I will post updates here as things unfold. This should be interesting!

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Kris19

I will be the “official” Net54 test case
I bought a card this morning with the Authenticity Guarantee. I am 99.9% sure the card is fake. I will post updates here as things unfold. This should be interesting!

I also bought a card which is definitely authentic but had a grade assigned. The pictures seem to match the assigned grade but just interested to see how the authenticator views the grade since they do not actually grade the card.

I'm assuming they will authenticate it and it certainly looks to be a very reasonable price for the assigned raw grade but could certainly fall a grade lower by one of the major authentication companies.

I'm more interested in how long it takes to get the card in my hands.

Based on Ebay's 1-2 day time frame stipulated for authentication once in the company's hands, it should be less than 2 weeks to get it into the buyer's hands. I highly doubt that will happen but we shall see.

The clock is ticking!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Kris19

I will be the “official” Net54 test case
I bought a card this morning with the Authenticity Guarantee. I am 99.9% sure the card is fake. I will post updates here as things unfold. This should be interesting!

Kris thanks for being the guinea pig!

[swarmee]

I am curious whether or not your sales tax will be refunded if the card is deemed fake.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I am curious whether or not your sales tax will be refunded if the card is deemed fake.

It sure as hell should be. If the card is deemed fake, that should result in a cancellation of the original sale. And if there was no sale, there never should have been sales tax collected. States have provisions for Ebay to file and report such instances where they return sales tax to a customer and can then receive a sales tax refund or credit. But it is up to Ebay to refund the sales tax and then file for the refund/credit. The states will likely not go after Ebay and force them to do that. As customer friendly as Ebay is, I cannot see them keeping sales tax money from a sale that is effectively cancelled, and the sales proceeds are returned to the unsuccessful buyer.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

Inside eBay's new Authenticity Guarantee for trading cards: 'It'll be a fast service'

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/...914xlepioy0s5v

Interesting interview. Thanks for posting. Cleared up some questions not answered in Ebay's explanation of the service.

Ebay claims the card will be authenticated after being received in 1-2 days. Wonder how long that time frame will stand up? I'm guessing not long.

I'm going to buy a card today and see how long it takes from purchase date to delivery to me.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by prestigecollectibles

Inside eBay's new Authenticity Guarantee for trading cards: 'It'll be a fast service'

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/...914xlepioy0s5v

So eventually I'd have to send in a $250 card to this service that's already been authenticated by PSA/SGC,...that's mind boggling to me and completely ridiculous. This would definitely make me stop selling everything on eBay that I know will even get close to that $250 dollar mark.
What a shit show.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by LEHR

So eventually I'd have to send in a $250 card to this service that's already been authenticated by PSA/SGC,...that's mind boggling to me and completely ridiculous. This would definitely make me stop selling everything on eBay that I know will even get close to that $250 dollar mark.
What a shit show.

I KNOW! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

Here is my ebay process now:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to buyer and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

Now the new process is going to be:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to CSG and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

I DON'T THINK I CAN ADAPT! HELP!!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I KNOW! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

Here is my ebay process now:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to buyer and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

Now the new process is going to be:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to CSG and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

I DON'T THINK I CAN ADAPT! HELP!!

LOL, that is the post of the day.

It is a huge inconvenience and can see how some just want to throw in the towel.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I KNOW! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!

Here is my ebay process now:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to buyer and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

Now the new process is going to be:

1. get email from ebay that my card sold
2. find card and put it in envelope
3. print label addressed to CSG and stick on envelope
4. put envelope in mailbox

I DON'T THINK I CAN ADAPT! HELP!!

I understand you're just being a sarcastic smartass, but if you think this is going to go smoothly you are mistaken. You do what you want with your cards but I will not be sending my already graded cards to someone else to be authenticated a second time. Sure this is a free service in the beginning; but it will turn into another way for eBay to nickel and dime sellers before it's over. It will end up being much easier to just send everything to an AH and be done with it.

[Ray Van]

Originally Posted by LEHR

I understand you're just being a sarcastic smartass, but if you think this is going to go smoothly you are mistaken. You do what you want with your cards but I will not be sending my already graded cards to someone else to be authenticated a second time. Sure this is a free service in the beginning; but it will turn into another way for eBay to nickel and dime sellers before it's over. It will end up being much easier to just send everything to an AH and be done with it.

Not to mention the additional time it will take for the buyer to receive the card despite what eBay is saying about a quick turnaround time. That’s BS of the highest degree. For a company highlighting the explosive growth in cards, they are doing a great job forcing buyers and sellers off their site due to their stupid policies.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by LEHR

I understand you're just being a sarcastic smartass, but if you think this is going to go smoothly you are mistaken. You do what you want with your cards but I will not be sending my already graded cards to someone else to be authenticated a second time. Sure this is a free service in the beginning; but it will turn into another way for eBay to nickel and dime sellers before it's over. It will end up being much easier to just send everything to an AH and be done with it.

I see. Worried about how to sell all your GMA cards now?

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by LEHR

So eventually I'd have to send in a $250 card to this service that's already been authenticated by PSA/SGC,...that's mind boggling to me and completely ridiculous. This would definitely make me stop selling everything on eBay that I know will even get close to that $250 dollar mark.
What a shit show.

It might be mind boggling to many on here. In reality several full time dealers have been scammed with fake slabs recently. There are also countless very obviously altered/fake cards in slabs. This is a GREAT thing for 99% of the hobby and I can't figure out all the hate for such a great free to buyers program.

The only bad part is the extra wait. My last experience(sneakers) was 16 days from purchase to receiving in the mail.

[LEHR]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It might be mind boggling to many on here. In reality several full time dealers have been scammed with fake slabs recently. There are also countless very obviously altered/fake cards in slabs. This is a GREAT thing for 99% of the hobby and I can't figure out all the hate for such a great free to buyers program.

The only bad part is the extra wait. My last experience(sneakers) was 16 days from purchase to receiving in the mail.

Ben,

I understand where you're coming from but what makes this grader any better than PSA or SGC? And sure the service is free in the beginning, but it won't be forever. When has eBay ever implemented a change that benefits collectors without also benefiting their bottom line? No hate here, just not something I'm going to participate in. if others wish to more power to them. And to me cards can't be compared to shoes or handbags because you don't already have millions of slabbed/graded/authenticated shoes or handbags on the market already certified by established graders/authenticators.
Just my opinion.