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Old 01-30-2022, 10:44 PM
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The list would be different if steroid users were included. Then Bonds would have made the inner circle and Aroid the next level.
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Old 01-30-2022, 11:09 PM
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My inner sanctum players are the guys I rooted for as a kid. TP Terry Puhl, Jose Cruz, Bob Watson, JR Richard, Cesar Cedeno, etc. Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio are not in my inner circle, because they are my age, and I view them as peers, and not heroes.

Here's the top 10 in WAR...(the inner circle)
Ruth
Johnson
Young
Bonds
Mays
Cobb
Aaron
Clemens
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Wagner

The problem with Bonds, Aaron and Clemens is that they don't have any cool cards to collect.


The story at the gym where no-one knew who Walter Johnson was, was the point I was trying to make about Doncic in the other thread, not that he's not good, he's not famous. George Washington is famous, and even he has a Q-rating of about 44.
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You're joking, right?
Having some fun with the topic, yes.

There was a time when Aaron's 1976 RB was the best card in my collection.

It's almost like they made the list, and created a stat called "WAR" to back it up with a math formula.

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Default 58 First Ballot Hall-of-Famers

David Ortiz became the 58th player elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Here's a link to the list: https://www.mlb.com/news/first-ballo...ers-c300943350

Why not decide how many you want in your Pantheon and start striking names off this list? It would be the "eyeball test HOF," but maybe also the "vote-with-your-heart HOF" too.

Interesting that, according to the list, there were no first ballot HOFer's between 1936 and 1962. Can this be true? Not DiMaggio?

Answer in supplementary article from MLB on ten greats not selected on first ballot: https://www.mlb.com/news/hall-of-fam...t-first-ballot
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Old 01-31-2022, 01:03 PM
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David Ortiz became the 58th player elected to the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Here's a link to the list: https://www.mlb.com/news/first-ballo...ers-c300943350

Why not decide how many you want in your Pantheon and start striking names off this list? It would be the "eyeball test HOF," but maybe also the "vote-with-your-heart HOF" too.

Interesting that, according to the list, there were no first ballot HOFer's between 1936 and 1962. Can this be true? Not DiMaggio?

Answer in supplementary article from MLB on ten greats not selected on first ballot: https://www.mlb.com/news/hall-of-fam...t-first-ballot
I think during those years it was just some obnoxious tradition. Hornsby didn't get in for 5 years or so for example. DiMaggio 4. Grove 4. Of course back then, players were eligible once they retired.
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How "tight" is the "inner-circle" supposed to be? I look at any player that has reached the basic milestones (500HRs, 3000H, 300W) are inner-circle. I'm sure other milestone criteria could be used. I suppose PED users are considered if you don't mind adding them.

Then there are those that haven't hit any of the milestones like Gehrig or DiMaggio that some might consider for their inner-circle.

Bottom line, it would be fun to put together a survey of this board to see who their top 50 or even 100 players are. Provide a rank number and the end result would be the highest ranking players. My guess is that a lot of the players selected by the old veterans committee wouldn't make the cut.
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Bottom line, it would be fun to put together a survey of this board to see who their top 50 or even 100 players are. Provide a rank number and the end result would be the highest ranking players.
This could be fun. Not sure of order, but off the top of my head, my top ten would be Cobb, Ruth, Mays, WaJo, Aaron, Bonds, Wagner, Ted Williams, Clemens, Gehrig.

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The list would be different if steroid users were included. Then Bonds would have made the inner circle and Aroid the next level.
Ruth and Aaron both used PEDs.
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The list would be different if steroid users were included. Then Bonds would have made the inner circle and Aroid the next level.
How is ARod not first tier?
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