The hobby is surely passing me by

[dbrown]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Am a little surprised Goldin sold this. Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy. Would they sell Wagner in a KKK hood? I mean, they can sell whatever they want, I'm just surprised.

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

[MattyC]

If that NFT of the Wagner is not the hobby jumping the shark, I don't know what is. The only other equivalent-magnitude shark jumping I can think of is PSA debasing itself by slabbing the doodles of that internet false-profit snake oil salesman Gary V. Together, those two events say a lot about where the hobby is, and how desperate a money play it is for some people. Thankfully, for many of us, it is still about collecting cards we find beautiful of a sport we love.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by dbrown

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

Not sure a man who celebrates a cdv of men in black face as one of his favorite pieces is exactly gonna be your shining knight in this moment.
That's alright though, older caucasian men are always the last to see the value of change - hence their lawns are always looking good.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Not sure a man who celebrates a cdv of men in black face as one of his favorite pieces is exactly gonna be your shining knight in this moment.
That's alright though, older caucasian men are always the last to see the value of change - hence their lawns are always looking good.

Comments like this are why race should not be discussed on this sub along with politics and religion. Everybody gets hyper triggered and can't play nice.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Not sure a man who celebrates a cdv of men in black face as one of his favorite pieces is exactly gonna be your shining knight in this moment.
That's alright though, older caucasian men are always the last to see the value of change - hence their lawns are always looking good.

I represent that!! BTW, they are frog face to me. Pepe Frog LOL


.

[Shoeless Moe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emQ6_PrRzIk

[steve B]

Originally Posted by 68Hawk

Not sure a man who celebrates a cdv of men in black face as one of his favorite pieces is exactly gonna be your shining knight in this moment.
That's alright though, older caucasian men are always the last to see the value of change - hence their lawns are always looking good.

And hardly anyone seems to realize the difference between what was and what is. And many of those people celebrate outright criminals while decrying the actions however misguided of people who likely died more than 20 years ago.

[Snapolit1]

Judging past behavior by today's standards is a vexing question and a serious one. It's not an easy one. Behaviors we condemn today, and rightfully so, were generally accepted at one point. How do we view the people who condoned them at the time? I don't give them a moral free pass, and I also understand the mitigating circumstances of history.

[Exhibitman]

I thought Pepe was a skunk...

[Bobbycee]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Judging past behavior by today's standards is a vexing question and a serious one. It's not an easy one. Behaviors we condemn today, and rightfully so, were generally accepted at one point. How do we view the people who condoned them at the time? I don't give them a moral free pass, and I also understand the mitigating circumstances of history.

Yes, it is easy: don't do it. It's only recently that the Woke religion has decided to take down history and cancel what was the norm of the past. It had better be a faze. Past generations didn't do it. You simply cannot use today's standards to judge past behaviors. Learn from history but you simply cannot change what already happened. If it keeps up, we'll have a sterile and conformed society like straight out of 1984.

Taking down statues of Jefferson and Washington is a tragic waste of time and energy. What do you think history is going to say about what is going on in today's outrage of the minute culture? Many of the very people who are tearing down history don't know squat about history or context of it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bobbycee

Yes, it is easy: don't do it. It's only recently that the Woke religion has decided to take down history and cancel what was the norm of the past. It had better be a faze. Past generations didn't do it. You simply cannot use today's standards to judge past behaviors. Learn from history but you simply cannot change what already happened. If it keeps up, we'll have a sterile and conformed society like straight out of 1984.

Taking down statues of Jefferson and Washington is a tragic waste of time and energy. What do you think history is going to say about what is going on in today's outrage of the minute culture? Many of the very people who are tearing down history don't know squat about history or context of it.

I think you have to be reasonable. It's one thing not to have a state Capitol fly the Confederate flag, it's quite another to take down a statue of Thomas Jefferson of all people or to change a school named for Abraham Lincoln of all people. And it's not like every famous and accomplished person of color has been a saint either.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Imagine for a moment that you are a black man. You take your son or daughter out and they ask you who Thomas Jefferson is and why there's a big statue of him in a public space. Would you want to ignore the fact that because of his race and privilege and black people's race and lack thereof, Jefferson was legally able to own people for no other reason than because they happened to look like you and your son?

Slavery and its effects are a crucial part of US history and continue to impact the daily lives of black Americans in ways many white Americans have difficulty understanding or acknowledging. The argument for taking down a Jefferson statue is not to whitewash history, but in fact just the opposite–to end the practice of publicly honoring white racists, which in itself whitewashes the horrors of slavery and racism that are intertwined with the accomplishments of celebrated white men such as Jefferson.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by dbrown

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

He wasn't run out of here...he was still posting, buying, selling and trading up until he just recently passed away.