OT: Michael Jordan Mania

[MattyC]

Oh, I'm sure some people fake-sell Mantles and Cobbs and try to work the scam du jour with every type of card/player they can to the extent they can.

The Jordan Fleer card is just so right for the scam because the scammers can also make good money selling it across other, cheaper price ranges. In contrast, trying to do it with cards that cost 10k+ to buy in for say the PSA 1s is not as optimum.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Oh, I'm sure some people fake-sell Mantles and Cobbs and try to work the scam du jour with every type of card/player they can to the extent they can.

The Jordan Fleer card is just so right for the scam because the scammers can also make good money selling it across other, cheaper price ranges. In contrast, trying to do it with cards that cost 10k+ to buy in for say the PSA 1s is not as optimum.

This one Matt…..Price Highly Unlikely

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Bowman...-127632-2357-0

[MattyC]

Link doesn't work for me, but was that the 52B that went off on eBay a ways back for some super-anomalous number? If so, I remember that one well; many of us suspected it was an attempt to start a run up on that card at the time. Bet it's one and the same "sale." Certainly was long an undervalued card yet broke out a little too much and too suddenly in that sale, LOL. Seems there's an art to pulling the scam off just right and that one came on too strong

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Link doesn't work for me, but was that the 52B that went off on eBay a ways back for some super-anomalous number? If so, I remember that one well; many of us suspected it was an attempt to start a run up on that card at the time. Bet it's one and the same "sale." Certainly was long an undervalued card yet broke out a little too much and too suddenly in that sale, LOL. Seems there's an art to pulling the scam off just right and that one came on too strong

Yes it was the one that sold for $42,600 2/14/21 in PWCC

[packs]

The same thing has been happening with many key cards. Look at the prices for 1950 Bowman Jackie Robinsons. When scanning the 57 sales listed under Sold, 22 percent of them came from one seller.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

The same thing has been happening with many key cards. Look at the prices for 1950 Bowman Jackie Robinsons. When scanning the 57 sales listed under Sold, 22 percent of them came from one seller.

There are sellers whose prices on certain types of cards I just view with extreme skepticism. 2016 all over again, in some ways. At least then you could see the encrypted IDs and bidding history.

[packs]

If you take a look at the Sold listing for the 1953 Topps Satchel Paige, another card that has appreciated quickly and to new heights, you will see the same seller over and over again there as well.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Oh, I'm sure some people fake-sell Mantles and Cobbs and try to work the scam du jour with every type of card/player they can to the extent they can.

The Jordan Fleer card is just so right for the scam because the scammers can also make good money selling it across other, cheaper price ranges. In contrast, trying to do it with cards that cost 10k+ to buy in for say the PSA 1s is not as optimum.

Especially if the 10s are worked on.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Especially if the 10s are worked on.

Good point. Overall the "barrier to entry," so to speak, makes certain cards much better tools for the scam than others.