Fake PSA slabs

[BeanTown]

Wow, now that’s scary bad. I heard there was some outfit South of the border bringing in fake PSA slabs years ago. With how the PSA market is, these slabs could become more valuable than actual drugs being smuggled across.

[Eric72]

Another one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

EDIT to add: look at the cert #s

[Directly]

I see the obvious card number issue, thanks for posting

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by Directly

I see the obvious issue, thanks for posting

What am I missing?

[Al C.risafulli]

What am I missing?

The card should be #274 if it's a high-number '38 Goudey, which this is purported to be. The "flip" reads #250.

-Al

[Directly]

Originally Posted by Wanaselja

What am I missing?

Flip shows card #250 but the card itself is numbered 274?

[ncinin]

The two listings linked have the same cert #. They are obviously not the same card.

I pass on alot of bigger ticket cards customers bring to me at shows if I do not know the provenance of the card.

I have seen too many suspect cards and many times the seller is innocent of trying to scam people but they were scammed themselves.

[Snowman]

Report them please

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Another one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

EDIT to add: look at the cert #s

Very frosty on the right side? Cracked open?

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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake

Very frosty on the right side? Cracked open?

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There are currently two of these cards for sale on eBay, same cert # and all. I belive both are fake cards with fake PSA flips.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455743745...QAAOSwOQlhCxP4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Eric72

There are currently two of these cards for sale on eBay, same cert # and all. I belive both are fake cards with fake PSA flips.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455743745...QAAOSwOQlhCxP4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

One of the cards is number 250 and the other is 274 so the latter doesn't match the number on the flip. How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by jayshum

...How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?

I'm not sure, hence the term, "I believe." To my eyes, there are differences between the linked card and a genuine Goudey DiMaggio. It could be the somewhat poor image quality.

Hopefully, a few more board members will take a look and chime in.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by jayshum

One of the cards is number 250 and the other is 274 so the latter doesn't match the number on the flip. How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?

To me the card 250 matches the flip and PSA cert verification. The card 274 has the little pictures in the borders. But I don't see a listing for that...

So other than what looks like tabs in the slab and a fuzzy barcode the other tipoff seems to be the fake aging of the card...

Does that seem right?

[Leon]

Fake slabs have been around for years.

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Wow, now that’s scary bad. I heard there was some outfit South of the border bringing in fake PSA slabs years ago. With how the PSA market is, these slabs could become more valuable than actual drugs being smuggled across.

"Copperfield" put LOTS of bad cards out there, and had a whole network of mules running them into the US. The feds pursued him for years. What was never clear to me is whether, as he became bigger and more sophisticated, he was actually having slabs fabricated as opposed to breaking them and resealing them (which he clearly was doing early on). Sometimes the only clue was very subtle misalignment of letters or numbers in the flip but given the constant change of flip styles that could be hard to detect.