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sycks22 08-09-2021 08:32 PM

Fake PSA slabs
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455743745...QAAOSwOQlhCxP4

He's trying to get away with this 38 Goudey Dimaggio and recently sold a 33 Goudey Gehrig as well. Sucks that there are these types of people out there.

Directly 08-09-2021 09:13 PM

PSA Certification #17136233 = Matches with PSA certification inquiry--what's a indication its a fake slab?

BeanTown 08-09-2021 09:17 PM

Wow, now that’s scary bad. I heard there was some outfit South of the border bringing in fake PSA slabs years ago. With how the PSA market is, these slabs could become more valuable than actual drugs being smuggled across.

Eric72 08-09-2021 09:21 PM

Another one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

EDIT to add: look at the cert #s

Directly 08-09-2021 09:35 PM

Fake slab
 
I see the obvious card number issue, thanks for posting

Hxcmilkshake 08-09-2021 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2132097)
Another one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

EDIT to add: look at the cert #s

Very frosty on the right side? Cracked open?

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Eric72 08-09-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake (Post 2132105)
Very frosty on the right side? Cracked open?

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There are currently two of these cards for sale on eBay, same cert # and all. I belive both are fake cards with fake PSA flips.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455743745...QAAOSwOQlhCxP4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

Wanaselja 08-09-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Directly (Post 2132104)
I see the obvious issue, thanks for posting

What am I missing?

Al C.risafulli 08-09-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

What am I missing?
The card should be #274 if it's a high-number '38 Goudey, which this is purported to be. The "flip" reads #250.

-Al

Directly 08-09-2021 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanaselja (Post 2132108)
What am I missing?

Flip shows card #250 but the card itself is numbered 274?

ncinin 08-09-2021 09:56 PM

1938 Dimaggio
 
The two listings linked have the same cert #. They are obviously not the same card.

I pass on alot of bigger ticket cards customers bring to me at shows if I do not know the provenance of the card.

I have seen too many suspect cards and many times the seller is innocent of trying to scam people but they were scammed themselves.

Snowman 08-09-2021 11:02 PM

Report them please

Santo10Fan 08-09-2021 11:12 PM

According to a Reddit post this one sold Saturday on eBay:

https://i.imgur.com/9H8mGKCh.jpg

Directly 08-10-2021 04:46 AM

Security Features
 
Also notice none those Fake PSA examples have any of the extra PSA security features--another possible red flag - are there fake slabs with the security features and the slab wasn't tampered ?

mrreality68 08-10-2021 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Directly (Post 2132144)
Also notice none those Fake PSA examples have any of the extra PSA security features--another possible red flag - are there fake slabs with the security features and the slab wasn't tampered ?

Thanks for the heads up

jayshum 08-10-2021 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 2132107)
There are currently two of these cards for sale on eBay, same cert # and all. I belive both are fake cards with fake PSA flips.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15455743745...QAAOSwOQlhCxP4

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33405822083...cAAOSweo5g2z7G

One of the cards is number 250 and the other is 274 so the latter doesn't match the number on the flip. How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?

Eric72 08-10-2021 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2132180)
...How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?

I'm not sure, hence the term, "I believe." To my eyes, there are differences between the linked card and a genuine Goudey DiMaggio. It could be the somewhat poor image quality.

Hopefully, a few more board members will take a look and chime in.

Peter_Spaeth 08-10-2021 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeanTown (Post 2132095)
Wow, now that’s scary bad. I heard there was some outfit South of the border bringing in fake PSA slabs years ago. With how the PSA market is, these slabs could become more valuable than actual drugs being smuggled across.

"Copperfield" put LOTS of bad cards out there, and had a whole network of mules running them into the US. The feds pursued him for years. What was never clear to me is whether, as he became bigger and more sophisticated, he was actually having slabs fabricated as opposed to breaking them and resealing them (which he clearly was doing early on). Sometimes the only clue was very subtle misalignment of letters or numbers in the flip but given the constant change of flip styles that could be hard to detect.

chalupacollects 08-10-2021 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2132180)
One of the cards is number 250 and the other is 274 so the latter doesn't match the number on the flip. How can you be sure the one with the correct card number is fake?


To me the card 250 matches the flip and PSA cert verification. The card 274 has the little pictures in the borders. But I don't see a listing for that...

So other than what looks like tabs in the slab and a fuzzy barcode the other tipoff seems to be the fake aging of the card...

Does that seem right?

Leon 08-12-2021 09:28 AM

Fake slabs have been around for years.

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