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Old 07-21-2021, 01:54 PM
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This one has traceable provenance....that should drive the price up a bit
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Are all the Wagners other than the HOF one owned by individuals? It would be a pretty cool item for a corporation to own and display, I imagine some of them own some pretty high powered art and have major security anyhow.
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Are all the Wagners other than the HOF one owned by individuals? It would be a pretty cool item for a corporation to own and display, I imagine some of them own some pretty high powered art and have major security anyhow.
I disagree. Displayed art will evoke a reaction, even if you know nothing about the piece. Displayed art also tends to be large and can be seen just in passing. For 90% of the people the card would mean nothing other than the company spending lots of money, on a little piece of cardboard, that could have gone to increase wages or improve conditions.
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It may be possible that if this card ended up in Houston it was a part of the original "Texan Collection" that is now being sold by Hunt auctions. Jeff W
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Oh man, wish we still had the PSA 4! I bet that would fetch a pretty penny today.
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I'm going to guess in the $6-7M range, but honestly wouldn't be surprised if it hit eight figures.
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I'm guessing it will go over 7 mil. there's a lot of money in the hobby right now and someone will dig deep to get it.
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I think it sets a record, 7 million or more, think of what the 52 mantles have been going for and there are thousands of them. There are only 70ish of these and everyone knows this card.
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If someone offer $15Mil to buy the card now, would REA just sell it privately? I am pretty sure it has happened before on other significant consignments in other AHs.
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Hi All,

Great information and great thoughts and opinions from everyone.

Keep it going.

I think it has strong eye appeal and should challenge the $6 million dollar record of the 1914 Ruth Card.

I also think the T206 Wagner should have the record since as it was mentioned earlier it has been the Face of Baseball Cards for over 100 Years and will Continue to be the Face for a long time to come.
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Seconds ago I just received an email from REA telling me the auction is now open. This card is already at $2.3 million. Wow. What a start. Peace.
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A number of years ago REA sold a Baltimore News Ruth if memory serves for around 50k. And Rob Lifson said in the description that he thought the card had the ability to become one of the most valuable cards in the Hobby. ...He got that one right.
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12 million
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I think this card will go for over $6mm. It is THE card to own in the middle of an unprecedented boom
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Well it is now past $6 million ($5.1 mill plus $1 mill buyers premium)

And still has 2 days before extended bidding.

There could be a real feeding frenzy

The Race to the sky begins
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$7.75 million is my over/under line
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The increase in wealth and number of individuals that are considered super wealthy in just the US has skyrocketed over the past year. Personally I don't think previous sales figures offer any true insight into what this card will sell for. I'm going to say this card eventually sells for 12-15 million with bp and wouldn't be surprised to see the high end of the range.
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I disagree. Displayed art will evoke a reaction, even if you know nothing about the piece. Displayed art also tends to be large and can be seen just in passing. For 90% of the people the card would mean nothing other than the company spending lots of money, on a little piece of cardboard, that could have gone to increase wages or improve conditions.


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I hope the Wagner card outsells the Baltimore News Ruth (which, in addition to being a minor league card, is basically a team schedule made to look like a baseball card and isn't even part of a set).

The Babe should be on the most valuable card in the hobby, but not that way.

Why hasn't the M101 Ruth taken those reigns?
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I hope the Wagner card outsells the Baltimore News Ruth (which, in addition to being a minor league card, is basically a team schedule made to look like a baseball card and isn't even part of a set).

The Babe should be on the most valuable card in the hobby, but not that way.

Why hasn't the M101 Ruth taken those reigns?
Because it's missing one of the three elements that make something a "top item" in any hobby.
It doesn't have a great story behind it, even one that probably isn't true.
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