THE Hall of Fame this year and next:

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

If not this year, next year is when 'the rubber meets the road' - where all arguments come to a head and the most difficult decisions as to the role of a player's character have to be made.

Thoughts?


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I think nobody will be elected. And I also don't think next year will necessarily see the rubber hitting the road. At this point, the writers have seemed to embrace punting on Clemens and Bonds (Schilling is a different case) to let the Hall's Era Committees handle it. For other players, very likely with Rodriguez, the same could be the case.
I think Rolen will eventually make it, if not next year then shortly after. Wagner, Sheffield, Helton and Jones seem to have made sizable jumps this year, if the numbers fall in line with the pre-results. They bear watching, although all of them are still on the fence, so to speak, with where they are at.
Vizquel seems to have dropped and I'm guessing the recent news about him would likely continue the drop in future years. He's probably not going to be elected via the writers at this point, but I'd think the Era Committees might put him in down the road.

[Kutcher55]

This is a complex issue. Normally I have always been against moralizing but then I think Bonds and Clemens both blatantly disrespected the game. I would probably vote for them if I had a vote but you gotta admit the ceremony would be pretty awkward. Yes there's plenty of guys who weren't saints in the HOF, the spitballers, the guys who didn't welcome the black players in the 50s, and there are probably a few women beaters in there as well (law of averages).
I don't blame anyone who wouldn't vote for Bonds or Clemens. Like I said complex, highly subjective issue and you can defend either position quite well.

I would personally vote for Schilling (worthy of induction, played the game the right way), Manny Ramirez (I know a HOFer and this guy is a HOFer) and I'd hold my nose and vote for Clemens and Bonds as well. But that's just me. It makes for great debate.

[Mike D.]

Nobody elected in 2021. On the bright side, if there is an induction ceremony, they have the 2020 class to honor.

[Mike D.]

Ortiz’s situation is significantly different than Bonds, Clemens, and Arod...I expect he’ll have a good showing in 2022. May not get 75% (some people still believe in the whole “skipping first year” thing).

[PowderedH2O]

A HOF without the HR champion, Hits champion, the guy with the most Cy Young Awards, and arguably the best postseason pitcher of the last 50 years... But Selig is in. Cap Anson is in. What a joke.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by PowderedH2O

A HOF without the HR champion, Hits champion, the guy with the most Cy Young Awards, and arguably the best postseason pitcher of the last 50 years... But Selig is in. Cap Anson is in. What a joke.

And don't forget Tony LaRussa.

[brett 75]

Originally Posted by perezfan

And don't forget Tony LaRussa.

I’ll drink to that😁😁.
The players like Rose , Bonds , Clemens may not have plaques in the hall with the others but they do have plenty of pictures, bats and balls etc.from there playing days that the Hall showcases. I found that a little odd. Rose not likely to ever get in , Bonds and Clemens will eventually I feel.
Brett

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by brett 75

The players like Rose , Bonds , Clemens may not have plaques in the hall with the others but they do have plenty of pictures, bats and balls etc.from there playing days that the Hall showcases. I found that a little odd. Rose not likely to ever get in , Bonds and Clemens will eventually I feel.
Brett

Many people make a distinction between the plaque gallery and the museum portions of the Hall of Fame. You're right that Bonds, Clemens, Rose, Jackson and others are part of the museum and have many artifacts and references from their playing days there. However, keeping them out of the plaque gallery is a way of not honoring them like those players who do have plaques.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PowderedH2O

A HOF without the HR champion, Hits champion, the guy with the most Cy Young Awards, and arguably the best postseason pitcher of the last 50 years... But Selig is in. Cap Anson is in. What a joke.

And 100 guys who used amphetamines.

[Rich Klein]

Curt Schllling on his FB page has officially sent a letter to the HOF asking that he not be on the 2022 ballot. We'll see if that stands,

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/curt-...KsgCzIvUMMaTBo

Rich

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Curt Schllling on his FB page has officially sent a letter to the HOF asking that he not be on the 2022 ballot. We'll see if that stands,

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/curt-...KsgCzIvUMMaTBo

Rich

It's probably reverse psychology or something.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Seeing who is in there how is Curt Schilling not a HOF pitcher? Or do you now have to be politically correct too?

[AGuinness]

Originally Posted by Mike D.

Nobody elected in 2021. On the bright side, if there is an induction ceremony, they have the 2020 class to honor.

Plus there's always a writer who gets elected, I believe. I _think_ in a normal year there would still be a ceremony, but I then I don't think there has been a shutout on the writer's ballot since 1996.