Fake T218 Boxing Autographs on eBay

[Tao_Moko]

It was me. However, I "reserved" them to bring awareness to the seller as I expected they were fake. And, in the off chance they were real was willing to take a risk at their low price. The Kline was the first to jump out and the "S" in Summers and lastly the Sharpie ink. If they had a 1% chance of being legit it would have been a once in a lifetime find. Seller refunded me within minutes of my purchase(the amount of time I needed to verify them). I am not the eBay police but I did bring awareness to the seller of my concerns and some evidence to support it. Most of the cards were $40-$55 which is not a gross overcharge from their raw value and they were in decent shape. Nobody is getting burned too badly if they don't get taken down. That may be a sh*try outlook, but there are bigger problems in the world then a handful of fake autos for $50 and the seller had zero issues refunding. This may fire some of you guys up, but I've seen it for 35 years and just kind of numb to it. Buyer must always beware.

[G1911]

Personally, the seller is committing blatant fraud and $50 for a poor grade T218 common is a 1000%+ price increase for a card doctored in the face of all decency and ethics.

[david_l]

@ Dave. Lol nice sleuthing...

... I agree with Greg 100%

I had one of the cards in my watch list and dc2marvelevents, the seller of these faked autographs, contacted me with an offer. I figured I’d write back. I was polite but direct with them and told them that the autos were fake and that there was some discussion within some hobbyist groups and message boards regarding these cards. I genuinely thought the seller might want to know they were being talked about.

dc2marvelevents messaged me back in all caps saying among other things

“I BOUGHT THEM IN A COLLECTION AND I KNOW NOTHING ABIOUT THE AUTOGRAPHS. EBAYERS LIKE YOUR SELF IDIOTS!”

Take it for what it’s worth but dc2marvelevents is either completely ignorant regarding the authenticity of the autographs they are selling (which is what the seller claims and is the BEST case scenario) or they are trying to commit fraud. Decide for yourselves but either way not a great business model.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by david_l

@ Dave. Lol nice sleuthing...

... I agree with Greg 100%

FYI, I had one of the cards in my watch list and dc2marvelevents, the seller of these faked autographs, contacted me with an offer. I figured I’d write back. I was polite but direct with them and told them that the autos were fake and that there was some discussion within some hobbyist groups and message boards regarding these items. I genuinely thought the seller might want to know they were being talked about.

dc2marvelevents messaged me back in all caps saying among other things

“I BOUGHT THEM IN A COLLECTION AND I KNOW NOTHING ABIOUT THE AUTOGRAPHS. EBAYERS LIKE YOUR SELF IDIOTS!”

Take it for what it’s worth but dc2marvelevents is either completely ignorant regarding the authenticity of the autographs they are selling (which is what the seller claims and is the BEST case scenario) or they are trying to commit fraud. Decide for yourselves but either way not a great business model.

Guess that kind of response would be expected. The cross-section between people who type in all caps and sell fraudulent sports cards seems to be extremely high for some reason lol.

How many more years do we have before eBay is flooded with T218 Jack Johnson fakes sellers found in Grandpa's attic, like the Pre-War Baseball listings?

[Tao_Moko]

I'm not sure I recall a time that I considered eBay a platform for decency or an ethical entity. Reports and complaints mostly fall on deaf ears with no resolve. There are so many issues these days that I have just backed away from the world of collecting and occasionally come up for air between farming, kids and work. There is junk entombed in slabs that are sold as legit too. Autos are best left alone unless sufficient provenance is provided, which you'll pay for. I might be a dumb dirtbag but I took the path of sharing information with the seller that identified my concerns to their authenticity. Right or wrong, it's how I chose to go about it because I am not an authenticator and the cards were not in my hand. And admittedly, I had that sliver of hope that just maybe,........they were Uncle Jimmie's

[Exhibitman]

“I BOUGHT THEM IN A COLLECTION AND I KNOW NOTHING ABIOUT THE AUTOGRAPHS. EBAYERS LIKE YOUR SELF IDIOTS!”

Now, who can argue with that? Not only is it authentic eBay gibberish, it illustrates the true animating spirit of so many eBay sellers: I don't know what it is I am selling but I'm going to label it anyway and if you don't believe whatever nonsense I pulled out of my @$$ I will evade the issue by insulting you.