Will this stock market madness affect cards?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by packs

Well I would suggest you talk to some people participating in the protests and see what they have to say.

i just saw a bunch of college kids at the corner with signs....i am going to assume they dont know how many unarmed white and black men were killed by police last year....they are out of school right now

to me its easy to protest when you are under 22 or whatever years old and school is out and you have zero responsibility and everyone gives you props for 'protesting' especially on day 14 or whatever when everyone is lauded for how great it is to protest

i think you would be surprised how much has changed in the lifes of protestors now versus the protestors in the 1960s ...the racial makeup of the mayors/state attorneys/national guard/police is a lot different then just 40 years ago but you can correct me if i am wrong

its a worthy cause, i not saying there is no racial injustice but to say its like the 1960s when people were risking their jobs and health and not getting instagram follows and likes and celebrity endorsements is a whole different situation ...and the amount of money raised is amazing

if we lower funding on police are we prepared for them to stop using the body cameras.... i thought that was a great thing to do....i think in the floyd matter , there would of been a lot of justice and body cameras would of been available and lawsuits regardless the protests...not sure police departments will want to continue to condone behavior which costs their departments 100s of millions of dollars in lawsuits. ..it used to be when charges were not never brought or the case was lost in court then you would see protesting...

also forget getting millions in future lawsuits when the money stops going into police departments.....i hope people have thought it out..

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i just saw a bunch of college kids at the corner with signs....i am going to assume they dont know how many unarmed white and black men were killed by police last year....they are out of school right now

to me its easy to protest when you are under 22 or whatever years old and school is out and you have zero responsibility and everyone gives you props for 'protesting' especially on day 14 or whatever when everyone is lauded for how great it is to protest

i think you would be surprised how much has changed in the lifes of protestors now versus the protestors in the 1960s ...the racial makeup of the mayors/state attorneys/national guard/police is a lot different then just 40 years ago but you can correct me if i am wrong

its a worthy cause, i not saying there is no racial injustice but to say its like the 1960s when people were risking their jobs and health and not getting instagram follows and likes and celebrity endorsements is a whole different situation ...and the amount of money raised is amazing

if we lower funding on police are we prepared for them to stop using the body cameras.... i thought that was a great thing to do....i think in the floyd matter , there would of been a lot of justice and body cameras would of been available and lawsuits regardless the protests...not sure police departments will want to continue to condone behavior which costs their departments 100s of millions of dollars in lawsuits. ..it used to be when charges were not never brought or the case was lost in court then you would see protesting...

also forget getting millions in future lawsuits when the money stops going into police departments.....i hope people have thought it out..

Well said...protests used to be when a verdict came out that people didn't like...someone was elected they didn't like....

In this instance the cops got fired and are being tried for murder. Yet the protest continue. Will they protest if the cops are found guilty too? Makes you wonder.

[gawaintheknight]

That may have been how they started, but they have now become protests against systemic racism and police violence across the country. Kind of like the Boston Tea Party - it may have started off as a protest against a tax on tea, but it became something a lot bigger.

Ted

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well said...protests used to be when a verdict came out that people didn't like...someone was elected they didn't like....

In this instance the cops got fired and are being tried for murder. Yet the protest continue. Will they protest if the cops are found guilty too? Makes you wonder.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by gawaintheknight

That may have been how they started, but they have now become protests against systemic racism and police violence across the country. Kind of like the Boston Tea Party - it may have started off as a protest against a tax on tea, but it became something a lot bigger.

Ted

I really wish there was more protest about black on black violence. All black lives matter to me, not just their dealings with the police. Plus if you look at the number of deaths in comparison.

2 of the officers involved just joined the force and on their probation period. The killer cop was giving them orders as he was a 15+ year or whatever veteran. I get that the training was terrible but i wont be suprised if murder charges are not found on the 2 rookies...then we will see some real protesting if that happens..

[Shoeless Moe]

I like the idiots calling for the Police to be eliminated, like in Minneapolis, those protesters will never be happy because that ain't happening, but if it does that town will burn in a matter of days.

Here's how it will go when you have no PD:


"911, what's your emergency?"

"My house is being broken into and I think they have guns."

"Ok, stay on the line, I have thoughts and prayers on the way."

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I like the idiots calling for the Police to be eliminated, like in Minneapolis, those protesters will never be happy because that ain't happening, but if it does that town will burn in a matter of days.

Here's how it will go when you have no PD:


"911, what's your emergency?"

"My house is being broken into and I think they have guns."

"Ok, stay on the line, I have thoughts and prayers on the way."

LOL......yep...that's pretty much it. No police is akin to socialism. Everyone wants it until they live it and realize how crappy it is.

[gawaintheknight]

That is not, in fact, what is being called for. If you want to learn about the movement, which is admittedly very poorly and inaccurately named, you can go here:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...olice-1007254/

The basic idea is the police would continue to perform the function you are joking about, protecting people and property from violent assault, but they would no longer do a lot of the things we've come to expect them to do and which they aren't really trained to do. From the article above:

"Police themselves will admit this — that they are being called to respond to situations beyond the scope of their job. “We’re asking cops to do too much in this country,” Dallas Police Chief David Brown said in 2016, after five of his officers were targeted by a mass shooter. “Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve. Not enough mental health funding, let the cops handle it… Here in Dallas we got a loose dog problem; let’s have the cops chase loose dogs. Schools fail, let’s give it to the cops… That’s too much to ask. Policing was never meant to solve all those problems.”"

You focus on preventing problems caused by social forces like racism, poor education, and poverty rather than relying on heavily armed people to deal with the consequences of those problems even though it's outside of their training. So you take money from the police and shift it to after school programs, addressing homelessness, treatment for mental illness, drug abuse prevention and treatment, and things like that. Makes sense to me, but it's a stupid name because it leads people to draw the wrong conclusions about what it intends to do.