Willie Mays 2003 Forged Counterfeit 2003 Topps Legends Card

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

If you use all the resources at your disposal, you can safely build a collection that has a high probability of not containing fakes:

• Study yourself
• Network with other knowledgeable collectors
• Use reputable TPAs with the understanding they are a professional opinion, but not infallible and not expert is every autograph in existence.

Steve,
People would actually have to care first. It’s a lot easier to just buy something then blame someone else when it doesn’t work out the way you expected.

[homerunhitter]

Thank you for your thoughts on this.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

Steve,
People would actually have to care first. It’s a lot easier to just buy something then blame someone else when it doesn’t work out the way you expected.

I don’t think that’s a fair comment. People buy these cards because they are a guaranteed genuine autograph from the manufacturer. There was never a reason to question these cards before. You are talking about a pack certified autographed card. And to the naked eye they did a great job with upper deck and Topps holograms and silver/gold foil. I was shocked when I got mine back from BGS as counterfeit. It wasn’t that I didn’t care - I just didn’t know this was possible. It’s important to spread the word on these boards to make everyone else aware too.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

I don’t think that’s a fair comment. People buy these cards because they are a guaranteed genuine autograph from the manufacturer. There was never a reason to question these cards before. You are talking about a pack certified autographed card. And to the naked eye they did a great job with upper deck and Topps holograms and silver/gold foil. I was shocked when I got mine back from BGS as counterfeit. It wasn’t that I didn’t care - I just didn’t know this was possible. It’s important to spread the word on these boards to make everyone else aware too.

Adam, you make a good point.

When I scan certain autographs on Ebay, I never examine the pack-pulled autographs. Just never thought i had to.

The only reason that I caught on to the forged/counterfeit Derek Jeter "1995 Upper Deck" autograph cards was because the forgery was so bad and it stuck out like a sore thumb.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Just because it’s “pack certified” doesn’t make it authentic either. Too much blind trust in everything. Do your own homework and stop letting other people tell you what is right and wrong.

I’m not saying those comments specifically to a specific card. It’s just become way too commonplace for people to assume something. Just because someone else says something is good doesn’t make it good.

[whyconform]

AHH,

Glad other people noticed it...I posted a video on this when I immediately realized I had a fake from some eBayer TNTNorthNJ or something like that...

Those 1996 reprints are only supposed to have 60 or so of each, and the one card keeps popping up CONSTANTLY....def forgery and the fake stamp concerns me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8YMJkv24Tc&t=106s

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Just as a reminder, in addition to the Mays cards, here are some other cards which have been sold with them in quantity.

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[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

Just as a reminder, in addition to the Mays cards, here are some other cards which have been sold with them in quantity.

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Yep.

I've posted blogs on the Jeter, Koufax and Mays forged/counterfeit cards.

I will be posting a blog on the Johnny Unitas forged/counterfeit "2001 Upper Deck" autograph cards.

I am also debating posting YouTube videos on the aforementioned.